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Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by zbentley »

bluecalm wrote: post #21
pjmlp wrote: post #18

Map the amount of fixes with "... improved bounds checking..." , "...improved memory handling..." , "...improved memory management..." into the amount of developer, QA and release management teams salaries per hour, versus other stuff they could be working on, and that gives an approximate value of how using specific languages maps into monetary loss, and why companies are starting to care nowadays, given computers a…

>>, and that gives an approximate value of how using specific languages maps into monetary loss, and why companies are starting to care nowadays, given computers are always exposed to the world network. You need also factor development time and ease of finding developers willing to work in a specific language. There are other factors like readability of the code (very verbose languages are likely to be worse) and cos…

> very verbose languages are likely to be worse

Citation needed. I don't think there's a correlation there. Over-architected Java spaghetti is verbose and unmaintainable. Under-architected Perl code golf that metastisized is terse and unmaintainable.

> languages forcing a lot of abstractions are likely much worse

Citation needed. C++ has had some very high-level abstractions on top of a low-level runtime for awhile, and plenty of people have decided to use it and hire for it regardless. What counts as an "abstraction" or "forced abstraction" is a very very subjective topic.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by gokohl »

tengwar2 wrote: post #33

15.7.8 is out today as well, with these security fixes: https://support.apple.com/en-us/128071 . For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading until MacOS 27 is available, and MacOS 15 is the previous version.

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Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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UqWBcuFx6NV4r wrote: post #27
pjmlp wrote: post #18

Map the amount of fixes with "... improved bounds checking..." , "...improved memory handling..." , "...improved memory management..." into the amount of developer, QA and release management teams salaries per hour, versus other stuff they could be working on, and that gives an approximate value of how using specific languages maps into monetary loss, and why companies are starting to care nowadays, given computers a…

“nah bro, all those other developers are just garbage, I am the one person that can write memory safe C”

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Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by IdiotSavage »

jghn wrote: post #37
tengwar2 wrote: post #33

15.7.8 is out today as well, with these security fixes: https://support.apple.com/en-us/128071 . For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading until MacOS 27 is available, and MacOS 15 is the previous version.

> For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading For me the issue is liquid glass. Which I doubt is getting fixed any time soon

I hate the round corners. It's already too much on 15, but way worse on 26. It looks like "Baby's first OS", designed by Fisher-Price.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by SanjayMehta »

flohofwoe wrote: post #53
trollbridge wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can almost turn it off on the 27 beta, and 27 seems to perform a lot better too.

You can already turn off most glass effects in 26 via "System Settings => Accessibility => Display => Reduce Transparency". I had that turned off years ago (for reasons I don't remember), and was wondering what all the fuzz was about when 26 came out because I didn't see much of a difference ;) IMHO the actual important visual changes in the 27 beta is that rolls back the bizarre oversized corner radius in Finder win…

It's the first thing I turn off on a new iPhone or iPad. Started around ten years ago in the release which had animated app icons. Induced nausea.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by gedy »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #63
tengwar2 wrote: post #33

15.7.8 is out today as well, with these security fixes: https://support.apple.com/en-us/128071 . For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading until MacOS 27 is available, and MacOS 15 is the previous version.

Did they un-hardcode the corner radius? I mean were they able to? I mean not that that anyone at this point needs convincing how utterly disgusting incompetent they’re at software.

They reduced the radius back to older, smaller size and now all apps use a single radius, vs the weird 3 different radii in Tahoe. Looks better.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by simlevesque »

jghn wrote: post #37
tengwar2 wrote: post #33

15.7.8 is out today as well, with these security fixes: https://support.apple.com/en-us/128071 . For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading until MacOS 27 is available, and MacOS 15 is the previous version.

> For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading For me the issue is liquid glass. Which I doubt is getting fixed any time soon

You can disable it in the accessibility preferences.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by reddalo »

tengwar2 wrote: post #33

15.7.8 is out today as well, with these security fixes: https://support.apple.com/en-us/128071 . For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading until MacOS 27 is available, and MacOS 15 is the previous version.

>have led many people to defer upgrading until MacOS 27 is available

Then there's me, crying in MacBook Pro 2019 stuck on MacOS 15 because 27 won't be available for my machine.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by hbn »

IdiotSavage wrote: post #74
jghn wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading For me the issue is liquid glass. Which I doubt is getting fixed any time soon

I hate the round corners. It's already too much on 15, but way worse on 26. It looks like "Baby's first OS", designed by Fisher-Price.

They reverted this in 27

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/09/macos-golden-gate-liqui...

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by Gigachad »

grahamlee wrote: post #11
AJRF wrote: post #3

Weird thing to see at number 3 on HN - is there some subtle context I am missing here? Are we wink winking that it's a lot of fixes?

And it's not actually that much information "about the security content". For example: "Impact: An app may be able to access sensitive user data. Description: An access issue was addressed with additional sandbox restrictions." This references CVE-2026-43819, which doesn't have any more information. Compare this with the nearly decade-old https://support.apple.com/en-gb/103680 , and you see much more specific informa…

The vagueness could be intentional. There’s been a big issue with linux where proof of concept exploit code gets posted before the bug is announced because people reverse engineer it from the fix commits.

Apple has the advantage that they can keep everything secret for long enough for the patches to roll out. And realistically there is no reason the user needs to know the details of an exploit that was patched before it was ever used.

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