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Re: Netflix employee fired for sharing personal details in retreat trust exercise

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I guess it's a personal thing, but I don't see how everyone going to a casino is a great idea, or developing team relationships.

I would guess that the casino is a relatively cheap space that can do entertainment and conferences and food, and it's not being chosen for the gambling aspects

I get what they offer, I guess I just don't see that as team building.

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I guess it's a personal thing, but I don't see how everyone going to a casino is a great idea, or developing team relationships.

I worked at a company that was pathologically thirsty and had only hard drinkers above entry-level. For those people, just drinking was the bonding. It reinforced the tribal affiliation. Casinos often provide free drinks. QED

This makes sense its the:

> I like to spend the company budget on blow and hookers, therefore it makes sense for me to invite all the employees to a strip club as it is a little more restrained.

Mentality.

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UK had the most unhinged work drinking culture I had ever seen.

While the alcohol consumption can be a bit nuts, the UK has a relatively strong cultural tradition that what happens in the pub stays in the pub. That makes it a useful low-risk way to air work issues that would not be raised in a work meeting, either because criticism would be taken as an offense, or just because the person raising them would not get to speak to the person that needs to hear. Of course, there's noth…

I was in London a couple of months ago. That day there were 2 (or demonstrations), something to do with Palestine and the other with internal UK politics, around the Big Ben / Buckingham palace. Ended up dragged into to the current of the latter on, could basically body surf If I had an inclination. It seemed everyone was drunk, women / men, old/ young. I didn't know you get so drunk on beer. Also, was the first time I've ever seen portable open urinals, where grown man took out their Johnsons in public and released the beer back into the wild.

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Offsite retreats seem like a bad idea in general, I've never been to one where I felt the team or company worked together better afterwards, and I've seen some spectacularly bad results... like the time the facilitator tried to get to the bottom of tensions between the CTO and head of sales (the classic problem of "Engineering isn't shipping features fast enough" and "Sales is selling features before even consulting…

We have a "retreat" every other year or so at a certain resort across the country. What happens is that the company flies everyone there + including overseas employees) do 3 days of meeting plus 1 day of free time before flying everyone back. 2 employees share a room, no family or friends allowed even if you want to pay for your hotel rooms out of the pocket. I don't see any point of this. Such a waste of time and je…

You are forced to share a room with another employee?

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Exactly this. No matter how they dress it up, HR is there to protect the company, not you.

Genuine question. Can you tell me why people love saying this so much?

While this isn't necessarily true at the individual level, HR as an institution is this way. The first HR departments were developed to defuse feminist agitation against sexist workplace environments at Sears.

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That's why we got training at Google that more or less told us not to put these kinds of things in writing. Remember: the e in e-mail stands for evidence.

Yeah when I worked at Deloitte Consulting, we had similar training that said something to the effect of "don't put something in an email that wouldn't feel comfortable as a newspaper headline".

"assume your mother, and/or the courts, will read it." was the version I heard

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You can make friends but don’t assume that they are simply because you share a common trauma of being cooped up in the same building. I’ve made friends at work. I wouldn’t call them friend friends but I’ve made friends at work.

I think if you consider your job a form of trauma then any judgements you have on it will be downstream of that.

Everything is a form of trauma. Jobs are just notorious for it.

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I really don't want to hear about your religion, and I don't want to see your Jesus Loves You gifs posted to the all tech Slack channel.

Sure, but that sort of behaviour is plainly abusive unless you're actually working in an explicitly religious setting. But merely saying "I'm taking next Wednesday off to celebrate Eid" ought to be fine everywhere, as is "this weekend I'm singing in my church choir then going for a picnic". Similarly, wearing a wedding ring or mentioning that you have a partner should never be a problem, but issuing a company-wide in…

Both Merriam-webster and thesaurus.com have intimate as a synonym for persaonl. Thesaurus.com says its one of the strongest.

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Amen. I only got my first job in tech because i put away 6 pints in the pub after the interview. We conducted interviews after lunch, for this exact purpose. I saw good candidates interview but decline the pub afterwards - they did not get offers. That company had at least two pub sessions a week, typically running to six rounds or more. We hit our medically-recommended maximum weekly intake by Tuesday; Fridays were…

This sounds like hell. At one place I worked, they had free pizza on Fridays so the developers could sit around and socialise. If only they realised that socialising was the last thing the developers wanted to do (many of us on the spectrum) and awkwardly standing around chewing whilst avoiding eye contact; I wonder if they still do it? Pubs sound even worse.

I see lots of small consulting companies doing weekly/monthly lunch/dinner events with "everyone" and then boasting about it on LinkedIn, with pictures of the tables.

You can clearly see who are the consulting people, and who are the HR/marketing ones based on who's got fake smiles, and who looks like they are dead inside.

Not only it's more of a redflag than anything, but also, since they are all doing it, what's the goal?

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