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Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by lapcat »

illithid0 wrote: post #40
jghn wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading For me the issue is liquid glass. Which I doubt is getting fixed any time soon

Also a liquid glass hater, but for what it's worth, 27 is supposed to make it a little bit better. I would prefer to go back to what I had before I had to upgrade into this horrible UI, but this is better than nothing. https://www.cultofmac.com/news/liquid-glass-changes-ios-27-m...

> this is better than nothing.

Having installed the beta, I think that's the best you can say about it.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by cubefox »

microtonal wrote: post #31
AJRF wrote: post #3

Weird thing to see at number 3 on HN - is there some subtle context I am missing here? Are we wink winking that it's a lot of fixes?

It is a lot of fixes and the Android Security Bulletins of June and Android 17 also had a lot of fixes [1], despite ASBs only containing high/critical vulnerabilities (other vulnerabilities are only fixed in major releases and QPRs, which most Android vendors respectively roll out late or never at all). I think the story here is that vulnerability discovery has accelerated a lot with LLMs, but since are adversaries a…

So using newish phones that don't get updated anymore could be a lot more dangerous now than it was just a year ago.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by illithid0 »

lapcat wrote: post #41
illithid0 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also a liquid glass hater, but for what it's worth, 27 is supposed to make it a little bit better. I would prefer to go back to what I had before I had to upgrade into this horrible UI, but this is better than nothing. https://www.cultofmac.com/news/liquid-glass-changes-ios-27-m...

> this is better than nothing. Having installed the beta, I think that's the best you can say about it.

As long as the UI improves and I can ignore all the AI stuff they're starting to push through, that's fine with me, though like many longtime macOS users, I'm not holding my breath for a bug-free experience.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by acdha »

bluecalm wrote: post #21
pjmlp wrote: post #18

Map the amount of fixes with "... improved bounds checking..." , "...improved memory handling..." , "...improved memory management..." into the amount of developer, QA and release management teams salaries per hour, versus other stuff they could be working on, and that gives an approximate value of how using specific languages maps into monetary loss, and why companies are starting to care nowadays, given computers a…

>>, and that gives an approximate value of how using specific languages maps into monetary loss, and why companies are starting to care nowadays, given computers are always exposed to the world network. You need also factor development time and ease of finding developers willing to work in a specific language. There are other factors like readability of the code (very verbose languages are likely to be worse) and cos…

> You need also factor development time and ease of finding developers willing to work in a specific language

This even more strongly favors Rust or Swift. Nobody is writing C or even Objective-C in 2026 as a growth language.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by andreasley »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #39
tengwar2 wrote: post #33

15.7.8 is out today as well, with these security fixes: https://support.apple.com/en-us/128071 . For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading until MacOS 27 is available, and MacOS 15 is the previous version.

26.0 had a very annoying video jitter issue, but that was the first things that I noticed to be fixed in the next 26 release. Other than that, it worked just fine.

The bug that led to network connection issues after 49 days of uninterrupted uptime was a bit of a showstopper for me.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by acdha »

cubefox wrote: post #42
microtonal wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a lot of fixes and the Android Security Bulletins of June and Android 17 also had a lot of fixes [1], despite ASBs only containing high/critical vulnerabilities (other vulnerabilities are only fixed in major releases and QPRs, which most Android vendors respectively roll out late or never at all). I think the story here is that vulnerability discovery has accelerated a lot with LLMs, but since are adversaries a…

So using newish phones that don't get updated anymore could be a lot more dangerous now than it was just a year ago.

Right - it was always dangerous but people who figured they weren’t important enough to be attacked might find out that LLMs have shifted that cost in the wrong direction.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by lapcat »

embedding-shape wrote: post #2

Lots of "in collaboration with Claude and Anthropic Research" mentions, no mentions of other labs. I'd assume Apple already had access to whatever the most powerful model is at the various US-based labs, but perhaps not?

> Lots of "in collaboration with Claude and Anthropic Research" mentions

I wouldn't say 4 is lots. The entire list is massive. I haven't counted myself, but someone claimed that macOS 26.6 has the all-time record with 155 CVEs.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by Jolter »

lapcat wrote: post #41
illithid0 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also a liquid glass hater, but for what it's worth, 27 is supposed to make it a little bit better. I would prefer to go back to what I had before I had to upgrade into this horrible UI, but this is better than nothing. https://www.cultofmac.com/news/liquid-glass-changes-ios-27-m...

> this is better than nothing. Having installed the beta, I think that's the best you can say about it.

I hear it’s slower? Can you comment on that?

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by trollbridge »

illithid0 wrote: post #40
jghn wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For context, there have been issues with MacOS 26 which have led many people to defer upgrading For me the issue is liquid glass. Which I doubt is getting fixed any time soon

Also a liquid glass hater, but for what it's worth, 27 is supposed to make it a little bit better. I would prefer to go back to what I had before I had to upgrade into this horrible UI, but this is better than nothing. https://www.cultofmac.com/news/liquid-glass-changes-ios-27-m...

You can almost turn it off on the 27 beta, and 27 seems to perform a lot better too.

Re: About the security content of macOS Tahoe 26.6

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Post by etempleton »

lapcat wrote: post #41
illithid0 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also a liquid glass hater, but for what it's worth, 27 is supposed to make it a little bit better. I would prefer to go back to what I had before I had to upgrade into this horrible UI, but this is better than nothing. https://www.cultofmac.com/news/liquid-glass-changes-ios-27-m...

> this is better than nothing. Having installed the beta, I think that's the best you can say about it.

Also on the beta. Agreed. Definite visual and UX improvement over 26, fixing the most egregious issues with 26 implementation of Liquid Glass, but maybe not quite as good as 25 overall.
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