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Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

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There was a discussion about this a few weeks ago, where I discovered KineStop which is an app that does the same on Android. I've only tried it a few times but it has worked every time.

Motion sickness person here. iPhone’s stock one doesn’t work for me. Haven’t tried that on Android. Will see if something similar is available on iOS as third party app.

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

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post #39

I have no idea how something like this is ideated, then prototyped, then validated, but it does work wonders for me, and I am so grateful it exists.

Seems pretty straightforward. 1. Be a developer and you (or a spouse/child/friend) get motion sickness when looking at the phone while travelling. 2. We’ve known the mechanisms of motion sickness (looking at something static while your inner ear indicates you’re moving) from before smartphones were a thing. 3. We already have a ton of information on the phone to know when we’re in a vehicle, how fast we’re moving, di…

And this is exactly how things in large corporations don't happen. Things in large corporations who pay so well that nobody makes it through the recruitment filters and competition who's more than 2% off from being a pure assessment metrics maximiser. In my mind, chasing an idea like this just does not match the type.

Why it isn't likely to have happened before: trying is only easy for a developer who is not only very familiar with the API for reading those motion sensors but also with the API for system wide overlay. This a strict no for your run of the mill to-do list app. Combine that with the requirement of being affected themselves (or someone close), having the idea, having the time to try and no competing side quests that take up all attention. And the requirement of when the experiment was successful, having the kind of access that actually serves as a conduit for ideas not only on paper to someone in the position to make it a product. That's a lot of stars that need to align. Personally I wouldn't even be surprised if there was an LLM angle: would still need someone in the know to try it, but chances are that knowledge combined with a bit of prompting could be a path to PoC implementation that could clear effort thresholds that would stand in the way of conventional coding.

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

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These are the type of problems that are completely invisible to someone who doesn't experience it. I wouldn't have even known it was a problem to solve. A few years back we played an escape room game online with the whole team. One of the clues was in one of my colleagues "room". All he had to do was read it. "Come one read it man, we can win this." He froze. We all insisted he reads it. He could not read it. We thou…

> He could not see the note we were talking about because he is colorblind.

A similar thing happened to a friend who was over for game night. We were playing the Monopoly Deal card game when he put a brown and a red card next to each other with kind of a confused silence. Look at this:

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/374991_dc4dfa2a6f0d4ebb81...

(Pictured: Three red property cards next to two brown property cards.) They use only color to indicate property group. I was surprised that such a recognizable brand would allow this to get through. About one in twelve men cannot play this game without assistance.

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried this and it did nothing for me. For a start, the white dots disappear on a white background, so not a good start. The main thing, though, is while it picked up on the vehicle turning it didn't pick up on acceleration much, which is what actually gives me motion sickness.

The biggest issue Android has both with Kinestop amd this app is unlike Apple's system it does not count for acceleration. I find myself having to look ahead when under acceleration or braking. I have experienced the Apple's motion cues when my friend got curious if it would work because he had no use for it since he did not have motion sickness and I'm unsure if it was just psychological but it felt better than Kine…

When did you try it? I got a bit confused by your comment because there's no obvious reason why the accelerometers in an android phone would have a problem reporting forward/backward acceleration any less accurately than lateral. So I installed it and the 'Dots' mode definitely responds to acceleration normal to the screen, but that mode is marked as 'New' so might not have been present when you last looked.

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

#68

I just found out this capability is also available on Macbooks! This would have saved me a lot of grief during a recent road trip through some mountains. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-motion-setti...

this helped me tremendously when I had to work in the backseat of a moving car. Felt sick pretty quick when I started using the laptop until I remembered about this feature because someone on HN recently posted / commented about it

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

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post #62
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems pretty straightforward. 1. Be a developer and you (or a spouse/child/friend) get motion sickness when looking at the phone while travelling. 2. We’ve known the mechanisms of motion sickness (looking at something static while your inner ear indicates you’re moving) from before smartphones were a thing. 3. We already have a ton of information on the phone to know when we’re in a vehicle, how fast we’re moving, di…

And this is exactly how things in large corporations don't happen. Things in large corporations who pay so well that nobody makes it through the recruitment filters and competition who's more than 2% off from being a pure assessment metrics maximiser. In my mind, chasing an idea like this just does not match the type. Why it isn't likely to have happened before: trying is only easy for a developer who is not only ver…

That has nothing to do with the feature being “ideated, then prototyped, then validated”, which is the crux of the conversation. It having taken so long is but a footnote.

> Personally I wouldn't even be surprised if there was an LLM angle

I would bet money there wasn’t. The feature was introduced in early 2024, meaning it has to be thought about, developed, and tested before that.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/05/apple-announces-new-a...

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

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post #64

These are the type of problems that are completely invisible to someone who doesn't experience it. I wouldn't have even known it was a problem to solve. A few years back we played an escape room game online with the whole team. One of the clues was in one of my colleagues "room". All he had to do was read it. "Come one read it man, we can win this." He froze. We all insisted he reads it. He could not read it. We thou…

> He could not see the note we were talking about because he is colorblind. A similar thing happened to a friend who was over for game night. We were playing the Monopoly Deal card game when he put a brown and a red card next to each other with kind of a confused silence. Look at this: https://static.wixstatic.com/media/374991_dc4dfa2a6f0d4ebb81... (Pictured: Three red property cards next to two brown property cards.…

At my first job our project manager was colorblind (red-orange/yellow). One day he dropped a photo of his cars dashboard at a red light with an orange "check engine light"

> "Quick, is this red or orange I need to know if it'll blow".

I'm sure it's a really annoying condition but at the time it was pretty funny and he joked around with it a lot

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