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Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always assumed this is triggered by Bluetooth connection to the car?

It triggers for me on trains too, so I think it's just accelerometer + location

I would assume the acceleration pattern of being in a vehicle is somewhat distinct.

I'd be curious what happens when you are in a vehicle that drives completely steady (no turns/acceleration/deceleration) - would it eventually turn off? I guess you wouldn't get motion sick in that case either way.

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#52

I'm curious how this feature chooses to turn itself on with automatic detection. Somehow managed to fool it the other day by shutting a car trunk, helping someone load up, with me on the outside. It activated the dots for the rest of my walk afterwards, when I was using the phone. I get the impression there are much more sophisticated signals and classification methods to determine whether someone is in a vehicle or…

I think two accelerometers would do it at different ends of the phone. Normal hand-based motion will rarely include a sustained exact acceleration in one direction on both of these at the same time e.

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#53
These are the type of problems that are completely invisible to someone who doesn't experience it. I wouldn't have even known it was a problem to solve.

A few years back we played an escape room game online with the whole team. One of the clues was in one of my colleagues "room". All he had to do was read it. "Come one read it man, we can win this." He froze. We all insisted he reads it. He could not read it. We thought he had an internet connection issue. Somehow we managed to escape the room and kept going.

The next day he told me he was embarrassed because he couldn't understand what we were talking about. He could not see the note we were talking about because he is colorblind.

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

#54
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I have no idea how something like this is ideated, then prototyped, then validated, but it does work wonders for me, and I am so grateful it exists.

Seems pretty straightforward. 1. Be a developer and you (or a spouse/child/friend) get motion sickness when looking at the phone while travelling. 2. We’ve known the mechanisms of motion sickness (looking at something static while your inner ear indicates you’re moving) from before smartphones were a thing. 3. We already have a ton of information on the phone to know when we’re in a vehicle, how fast we’re moving, di…

Thank you bro!

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

#55

There was a discussion about this a few weeks ago, where I discovered KineStop which is an app that does the same on Android. I've only tried it a few times but it has worked every time.

I use KineStop and it works better than Apple's version on iOS did for me. Hopefully AOSP implements one because you do have to give KineStop rather invasive permissions.

Eventually I will try the open source offerings.

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Would it also work onboard a ship? Or movements are too slow to provide enough visual cues on a small screen.

It absolutely is working on a ship. At least for me it helps e.g. when traveling on a big ferry etc. but I guess everybody has a different level of tolerance.

Interested because this autumn will board a ferry for an overnight journey. Sometimes I did suffer seasickness and have read taking medication when onboard already is too late. So I am happy to know there may be a potential solution available. Just in case. Thanks.

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

#57
Wonder if Tesla should add something like this to rear screen. It’s not very useful for most adults due to how low it is, but kids willing to get screen time on anything (not that I condone).

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

#58

I just found out this capability is also available on Macbooks! This would have saved me a lot of grief during a recent road trip through some mountains. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-motion-setti...

It works great on Macbook. I don't know why they don't suggest it to folks when car or train movement is detected! I have a feeling a lot of people don't know it exists. I wish my Pixel 9 had it but I guess it hasn't trickled down yet. I think it's in the latest Android on latest Pixel devices though.

> I don't know why they don't suggest it to folks when car or train movement is detected

Apple whole idea to UX seems to be "Mostly hidden by default, let people trigger it accidentally to learn about it, or reading about it somewhere else" as even after having my iPhone 12 Mini for so long, I still "discover" new things every now and then that nothing or no one told me about.

Like how are people supposed to "discover" the whole "shake the phone to undo" shortcut unless they accidentally trigger that? I see nothing in the UI that indicates when this is possible either, some apps use that for reporting feedback instead.

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

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My Android phone has this too (Vivo). Maybe they all do? It wasn't well explained what it was for though, I discovered it while messing with the settings and thought it was just a cool random feature to visualize motion. I'm just now learning it's for motion sickness.

Honor phones have this in the quick settings (the thing that opens when you slide the right side of the top bar down), labeled "Motion Sickness". Felt well-explained and discoverable. But the beauty and pain of Android is every brand having slightly different UI. This might well be a manufacturer-specific feature. Or maybe it's a common Android thing that some brands just expose better than others

On Vivo it's called "Motion Cues". Subtitle: "Dots shift forwards and backwards during acceleration and deceleration". And then it says in tiny font it's for motion sickness, I guess I didn't read that far last time.

Re: Vehicle Motion Cues

#60
I wish this worked a little better. It doesn't solve motion sickness for me when looking at my phone in a car, but it does seem to make it a little less severe.
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