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Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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post #15

Telnyx was cool until they started demanding KYC. I would use them for burner phone numbers until they started saying they needed my government ID. Fuck that. OVH same thing. Tried to buy a VPS from them some years back and they said no VPS unless I provided ID. Would not refund me. Tried to dispute but my bank just gave me a credit instead.

There were new regulations passed to combat robocalls that forced these companies to tighten up.

10DLC in North America

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

#33
post #30

In my first interaction ("hi there kimi k3!"), Kimi K3 identified twice out of three times as Claude: > Hi there! Quick note — I'm actually Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi. But no worries! https://imgur.com/a/jqpc2Jc and > Just a quick heads-up — I'm Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi! Kimi is a different AI assistant (made by Moonshot AI), so it looks like there might be a little mix-up. https://imgur.com/a/AKx…

Bootleg AI

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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post #30

In my first interaction ("hi there kimi k3!"), Kimi K3 identified twice out of three times as Claude: > Hi there! Quick note — I'm actually Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi. But no worries! https://imgur.com/a/jqpc2Jc and > Just a quick heads-up — I'm Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi! Kimi is a different AI assistant (made by Moonshot AI), so it looks like there might be a little mix-up. https://imgur.com/a/AKx…

Models don't have an inherent identity. It should be obvious by now that every models trains on public AI chat session transcripts. I've seen Claude say it's Qwen.

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

#35
post #27

I think telnyx is a good product, with the only stain to its name being the supply chain attack on their python library. But I don't feel like providing inference is a professional move, it feels like out of scope for a telephony IaaS company. Feels like a FOMO moment where a reputation of years is crashed in a couple of weekends of being drawn into a fad. And the fact that it's a chinese model doesn't quite help? I…

Large profitable corporations with very poor customer support have existed long before AI, so why should it be different? Using AI to provide poor customer service is just an implementation detail.

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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post #30

In my first interaction ("hi there kimi k3!"), Kimi K3 identified twice out of three times as Claude: > Hi there! Quick note — I'm actually Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi. But no worries! https://imgur.com/a/jqpc2Jc and > Just a quick heads-up — I'm Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi! Kimi is a different AI assistant (made by Moonshot AI), so it looks like there might be a little mix-up. https://imgur.com/a/AKx…

This happens with other models too - Gemini often identifies as ChatGPT for me, confusing many a debugging attempt

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

#37
post #30

In my first interaction ("hi there kimi k3!"), Kimi K3 identified twice out of three times as Claude: > Hi there! Quick note — I'm actually Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi. But no worries! https://imgur.com/a/jqpc2Jc and > Just a quick heads-up — I'm Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi! Kimi is a different AI assistant (made by Moonshot AI), so it looks like there might be a little mix-up. https://imgur.com/a/AKx…

How many times do people need to point out that every model has this behavior until this stops being posted?

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

#38
post #30

In my first interaction ("hi there kimi k3!"), Kimi K3 identified twice out of three times as Claude: > Hi there! Quick note — I'm actually Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi. But no worries! https://imgur.com/a/jqpc2Jc and > Just a quick heads-up — I'm Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi! Kimi is a different AI assistant (made by Moonshot AI), so it looks like there might be a little mix-up. https://imgur.com/a/AKx…

FWIW Claude sometimes identifies as DeepSeek when asked in Chinese: https://x.com/stevibe/status/2026227392076018101

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

#39
post #33
post #30

In my first interaction ("hi there kimi k3!"), Kimi K3 identified twice out of three times as Claude: > Hi there! Quick note — I'm actually Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi. But no worries! https://imgur.com/a/jqpc2Jc and > Just a quick heads-up — I'm Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi! Kimi is a different AI assistant (made by Moonshot AI), so it looks like there might be a little mix-up. https://imgur.com/a/AKx…

Bootleg AI

if this qualifies bootleg, point me at non-bootleg frontier ai.

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

#40
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are selling it even cheaper than Moonshot AI. Why are you so sure they are lying?

We estimate that the true blended price per million tokens for running Opus 4.7 on agentic tasks at $0.99 despite the sticker price being $5/$25 per MTok. https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/ai-value-capture-the-s... according to Semianalysis those prices would be far above actual costs.

Please correct me if I'm incorrect, but it seems to me those numbers are describing a fairly different situation to this one. Anthropic serving their own model to their own users at that scale gets cache hit rates and machine utilisation that someone standing up another company's 2.8T model in four regions isn't going to get, and this thing needs 64 accelerators minimum before it will run at all, so a rack sitting mostly idle through a quiet hour costs the same as a busy one. The margin figure quoted is also just the price against the cost of producing the tokens, it doesn't have buying the hardware in it, or depreciation, or maintenance, or the money they'd have made renting those machines out instead, which with rental prices up 40% since October isn't nothing.

I largely agree things are overpriced, I just don't think that article is the right basis for saying it about this one.

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