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Our position on open-weights models

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Re: Our position on open-weights models

#451

> Anthropic has never advocated for a ban on open-weights models. > All sufficiently capable models, open and closed, should go through mandatory safety testing. Yeah, this is anthropic advocating for a ban on open weight models. Who runs this test? What happens if this test is too costly or the administrator refuses to allow certain people to participate. This is exactly how the US has banned goods in the past, by r…

> this is anthropic advocating for a ban on open weight models

Is the pessimistic view. Their message on safety has seemed pretty consistent to me.

"Second, we recommend a testing and auditing regime for new and more powerful models similar to cars or airplanes. AI models of the near future will be powerful machines that possess great utility, but can be lethal if designed incorrectly or misused. New AI models should have to pass a rigorous battery of safety tests before they can be released to the public at all, including tests by third parties and national security experts in government." Amodei in front of Congress three years ago.

Re: Our position on open-weights models

#453

In the first paragraph, > Anyone who has read my past writing should know that I don’t regard such bans as a useful measure, Later (on banning chip sales to china) > we should crack down on the rampant smuggling and workarounds used to obtain access to such chips. If you truly believe that bans don't work, the same applies to hardware too. Furthermore, Dario says later "To address these concerns, I do support the fol…

Banning software/data from being put on the internet vs banning GPU hardware is fundamentally different though, isn't it?

Re: Our position on open-weights models

#456

So the argument is basically: This technology is too dangerous so only _we_ should have access to it. We’re the good guys and only we can ensure a safe use of this technology. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

That is in fact Anthropic's entire reason for existence, the belief that AGI is too dangerous to be controlled by OpenAI/Sam Altman. It naturally follows that it would also be too dangerous to be in the hands of literally everyone on earth.

>AGI

Everyone in the LLM business just won. This is the entire idea that they want to sell you via this drama..

Re: Our position on open-weights models

#457
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"To summarize my and Anthropic’s position, we have not and are not advocating for a ban on open-weights models as a category." Translation: If it's so strong that it threatens my business, ban it. "We should instead focus on keeping powerful chips out of authoritarian hands, " Translation: Let's kneecap competitors. "stopping industrial-scale distillation" They stole the work of every book author, and now are trying…

> "We should instead focus on keeping powerful chips out of authoritarian hands, "

No chips for the current US administration then?

Re: Our position on open-weights models

#459

I found lots of comments here suffer from proximity bias. Anthropic anti-open-model stance does not mean China is not a threat.

I don't think people are saying China isn't bad, they're saying it's incredibly hypocritical because the US is also bad

Re: Our position on open-weights models

#460

Every single risk he identifies as a concern regarding China is exactly my concerns with the US having absolute control. Literally the exact same concerns

Yeah. Exact same concerns here as a non-american. Their "national security" is a constant threat to the rest of us.

Yep. Sick of reading stuff that operates under the assumption that America is the faultless good guy and the only one to be trusted with the most dangerous and capable technology.

Among many other things, the Trump presidencies (and, to a lesser extent, the presidency between them) are examples of the the highest levels of leadership being totally incompetent, and have destroyed the above assumption for the rest of the world.

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