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Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

#81
Cheating is only fully unethical under two radical assumption:

1. School is perfect. 2. With a diplomat from a perfect school, the society's employment process is perfect.

I don't think either the definition of perfect nor the way of achieving such perfection can ever be agreed upon.

There has been extensive criticism on meritocracy in recent years, such as The Tyranny of Merit by Michael J. Sandel.

Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

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post #74

This particular implementation of the test seems flawed. The “invisible text” which would be read by a screen reader or visible if the problem statement were copied to some persistent scratch space while drafting a response would specify the inclusion of the word whether or not the author is an LLM.

Yes because people are identical to llms and cannot see through that.

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Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

#83
post #38

I'm not disputing that students cheat using AI, and that professors catch them and enact consequences. But this video is a little suspicious. The fact that none of the 32 students bothered to even read the generated output feels strange. Or that those students didn't notice the extremely obvious white text at the bottom of the question when copy/pasting the assignment. Combined with a TikTok account of a person who i…

> Combined with a TikTok account of a person who is clearly participating in the attention economy, I am skeptical. Yep, from the context, 100% this is fake. Also, while this Jason Gibson claims to be a history professor at Alcorn State University, it seems to me that Alcorn State doesn't have a history department, and no "Jason Gibson" appears anywhere in the faculty list of Alcorn's College of Arts and Sciences. ht…

> Yep, from the context, 100% this is fake. Also, while this Jason Gibson claims to be a history professor at Alcorn State University, it seems to me that Alcorn State doesn't have a history department, and no "Jason Gibson" appears anywhere in the faculty list of Alcorn's College of Arts and Sciences. https://www.alcorn.edu/academics/schools-and-departments/col...

> Maybe I'm sheltered, but I've never seen a university professor without a departmental web page and a list of publications. Or a RateMyProfessors.com listing.

https://www.alcorn.edu/2026/05/04/2026-student-leadership-co...

His name is mentioned here.

He is also listed on this document in Social Sciences

https://www.alcorn.edu/commencement/wp-content/uploads/sites...

SOCIAL SCIENCES

Dr. Siddig Fageir

Dr. Jason Gibson

Dr. Alisa F. Hayes

Dr. Vitalis A. Iheanacho

His Linkedin has tons of posts about Alcorn State University.

And Alcorn State University does have a History Department.

https://www.alcorn.edu/academics/schools-and-departments/col...

Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

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post #38

I'm not disputing that students cheat using AI, and that professors catch them and enact consequences. But this video is a little suspicious. The fact that none of the 32 students bothered to even read the generated output feels strange. Or that those students didn't notice the extremely obvious white text at the bottom of the question when copy/pasting the assignment. Combined with a TikTok account of a person who i…

> Combined with a TikTok account of a person who is clearly participating in the attention economy, I am skeptical. Yep, from the context, 100% this is fake. Also, while this Jason Gibson claims to be a history professor at Alcorn State University, it seems to me that Alcorn State doesn't have a history department, and no "Jason Gibson" appears anywhere in the faculty list of Alcorn's College of Arts and Sciences. ht…

I'm not saying Jason Gibson is or isn't a real peron, but a quick sleuthing turns up this:

- Alcorn State History major within Department of Social Sciences[0]

- Jason Gibson LinkedIn[1]

It's true he's not listed on Alcorn State's faculty page[2], but it also says he started in July 2025. He is listed on the faculty page of Tougaloo College[3], which is listed in his LinkedIn bio. Sounds like he's probably an adjunct professor or someone without full standing, which isn't that uncommon to not list on a faculty page. The Social Sciences department at Alcorn State has 4 people listed, which seems low and probably incomplete.

If it's a hoax, it's a pretty elaborate one.

[0]https://www.alcorn.edu/academics/schools-and-departments/col...

[1]https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-gibson-287782a2/

[2]https://www.alcorn.edu/academics/schools-and-departments/col...

[3]https://www.tougaloo.edu/academic-faculty-directory

Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

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post #38

I'm not disputing that students cheat using AI, and that professors catch them and enact consequences. But this video is a little suspicious. The fact that none of the 32 students bothered to even read the generated output feels strange. Or that those students didn't notice the extremely obvious white text at the bottom of the question when copy/pasting the assignment. Combined with a TikTok account of a person who i…

as an educator, does match my experience though. I do something similar, tho a little more sophisticated than white text for some assignments so that students not cheating have a way to standout from the pack. in my most recent class of 48 students, maybe 5 actually engaged properly. I dont know if those students used AI or not, and frankly I don't really care, but i do care if students think critically and engage with the content.

I see some improvements in class where we discuss short-comings of AI etc. but realisitclaly life for students now is much harder than it was when I went through. A majority are holding a fulltime job just to keep food in mouth / roof overheadc they simply dont have time to do things properly for the most part as far as I can tell.

From what insight i could gather, both average mark and AI abuse vs us correlate strongly with financial security.

The problem is much deeper than AI abuse, it's a symptom and a useful indicator, not the problem itself.

Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

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post #38

I'm not disputing that students cheat using AI, and that professors catch them and enact consequences. But this video is a little suspicious. The fact that none of the 32 students bothered to even read the generated output feels strange. Or that those students didn't notice the extremely obvious white text at the bottom of the question when copy/pasting the assignment. Combined with a TikTok account of a person who i…

I see adults at the job who do not even bother reading a single word from the AI slop they shove down everyone else's throat literally daily. They will copy/paste a question, and just copy/paste the answer with 0 proofreading or checking or anything.

I can so easily believe that kids do the exact same thing.

Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

#87
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I try to be optimistic but then I talk with friends who are teachers and it is very grim. I'm sure the students will eventually learn the lesson but only after they have failed a lot in future. It really is taking the easy short term gains for hard long term punishments. But look at many parts of the world and you see that it isn't unique. I saw it from some Cooker-anti Vax folks the saying "You future doctor is curr…

The world is quite fine taking long-term Ls for short-term gains. That's the zeitgeist of the 21st century. The end result of that is a shit society to live in, but overall welfare is not what we optimize for.

100% agree. I see some of the less dogmatic religions like philosophical Taoism and you could imagine some of them being plucked from a thousand years ago into today and they would just be like "Yeah, this is the road to ruin but you choose this."

Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

#88
post #38

I'm not disputing that students cheat using AI, and that professors catch them and enact consequences. But this video is a little suspicious. The fact that none of the 32 students bothered to even read the generated output feels strange. Or that those students didn't notice the extremely obvious white text at the bottom of the question when copy/pasting the assignment. Combined with a TikTok account of a person who i…

I see adults at the job who do not even bother reading a single word from the AI slop they shove down everyone else's throat literally daily. They will copy/paste a question, and just copy/paste the answer with 0 proofreading or checking or anything. I can so easily believe that kids do the exact same thing.

That's a good point, but this isn't just one student; it's EVERY student (oh god I sound like AI)

Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Professor here. Every single one of us that looks for it, finds plenty of examples of students “cheating”. Learning takes effort, and humans (some more than others) are designed to minimize effort. We have designed education around exams and evaluation. If I design an exercise that does not contribute to their final grade, students don’t even look at it. If I design a 30min tutorial on a programming subject, students…

I think my primary curiosity is: does "rampant AI cheating" mean "most students in most classes" or "a few students in a lot of classes"? The latter is my expectation based on my perception of pre-AI cheating, so I'm wondering if AI has made it 1.5x worse or 10x worse?

AI has made it 10x worse.

My wife is a professor. Tons of students cheat. Often badly. It is a complete phase shift from pre-chatgpt. Detection methods keep having to adapt. Usually she catches people because a writing assignment will say something like "using material from the readings..." and the students don't care enough to provide the readings to the AI so the AI writes something coherent but which brings in a bunch of material that wasn't covered and that the student doesn't know anything about.

Five years ago you cheated on a writing assignment by paying somebody else to do it. Today you type a few words. She's getting 10-20% of the class admitting to cheating when initially confronted. There doesn't seem to be a pattern in who cheats. The bad students who don't come to class cheat. The good students who pay attention in class cheat. It is everywhere.

Re: Professor's invisible prompt trap catches 32/35 students cheating with AI

#90
post #38

I'm not disputing that students cheat using AI, and that professors catch them and enact consequences. But this video is a little suspicious. The fact that none of the 32 students bothered to even read the generated output feels strange. Or that those students didn't notice the extremely obvious white text at the bottom of the question when copy/pasting the assignment. Combined with a TikTok account of a person who i…

I have no opinion on the validity of this claim, but I do know that many students do not read things. I taught university level computer science for over 30 years. On midterms, I would embed phrases such as “print OKAPI on the top of page 2 for an extra mark” in the exam instructions. About 40% of students followed this instruction, even though I did this for years, and you'd have thought students would tell their friends. But they didn't.

I could go on about cheating rings that encompassed entire classes (I never saw this myself, but have read authenticated reports of it.) I know of a case where a class writing an exam had teaching assistants writing the exam answers on the blackboard at the front of the room.

The CS students I taught were a highly motivated group overall. But perhaps these students were in a course they didn't want to take, resentful of being made to study things they weren't interested in, because it was a program requirement. (I taught service courses, I know that mentality.) Then it is entirely plausible to me that they might cut and paste an answer without even looking at it, or an executive summary that appears there.

I first discovered that not all students are fussy about the work they hand in, back in the late 1960s, when I was a marker for a course that taught some Cobol. The lab was a payroll program, and I saw several students hand in programs that computed pay as $2.00/hour times 40 hours equals something like $-123456.78. I asked them, when I gave them their work back, if they had looked at their output. They were all surprised that I'd expect that.

Lest there be any misunderstanding, I taught many highly motivated students who worked hard and cared very much about their work. But I did deal with many incidents of cheating in my career too.

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