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Re: A Discord Alternative – Echoed

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Post by LorenDB »

virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #20
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always surprised to hear people hate Discord's UI. I think it's fine. The only thing I was probably change is adding the ability to bookmark specific channels so I can switch to them in a single click no matter what channel I'm currently looking at.

Yeah; I get the impression that people saying this really mean "I hate the stupid upsells." Which is fine, I do too. But I guess on HN there's more clout to claiming it's the UI that's the problem?

Well, I do hate the stupid upsells, but the entire Discord UI just feels... off. I can't really place a finger on it, but I just don't like it. (Maybe there is a bit of a UX nag causing these feelings as well? I'm not sure.)

Re: A Discord Alternative – Echoed

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Post by bitmasher9 »

apetresc wrote: post #16
bitmasher9 wrote: post #3

Is there anyone there I want to talk to? You need to demonstrate that before I create a login, otherwise there is too much friction for me. The iOS storefront is also far behind your website in quality and attention to detail. Edit: please accept this in the spirit of some quick feedback from one maker to another

How on earth do you expect them to show you whether there's anyone there you want to talk to?

I have a lot of chatting applications that all demonstrated that to me. The most common way was having another party indicate the app as a communication option

Re: A Discord Alternative – Echoed

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Post by muwtyhg »

Why do companies like this continue to promise "No Ads Ever"? How do they plan enough money to support their service? Video sharing is incredibly expensive, even Discord is unlikely profitable between their advertising campaigns and server boosting revenue.

It's not self-hosted, they are going to have to make money at some point to support the effort.

Re: A Discord Alternative – Echoed

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Post by hmokiguess »

hresvelgr wrote: post #33
adzm wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is so little advertising on discord that I find it hilarious you are so upset about a few notifications here and there about nitro and other aesthetic perks which are basically entirely optional

There are 3rd party ads in Discord now, and they are probably going to expand as an ad platform. I think this is what the parent comment was upset about. edit: grammar

That too, I have to be on Nitro because of work. (Managing communities, streaming resolution, etc), and the level of ads triple after being a customer. Even worse if you need to blend in like adopting some of the customization since the cult goes deep.

To be fair, I put myself there and I voluntarily work with those audiences. I am aware I don't belong to the same level they do, and I'm ok with that. I just wish I could customize it my way too. In my view, if this was a protocol rather than a PaaS locked-in system, like IRC for example, we all would be winning.

Re: A Discord Alternative – Echoed

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Post by Apreche »

If it’s not open source and self-hostable, it’s a non-starter. Not switching to another closed platform just for it to die. I’m tired of switching. Whatever I switch to next must be able to last the rest of my life expectancy.

Re: A Discord Alternative – Echoed

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Post by saintfire »

virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #20
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always surprised to hear people hate Discord's UI. I think it's fine. The only thing I was probably change is adding the ability to bookmark specific channels so I can switch to them in a single click no matter what channel I'm currently looking at.

Yeah; I get the impression that people saying this really mean "I hate the stupid upsells." Which is fine, I do too. But I guess on HN there's more clout to claiming it's the UI that's the problem?

Nah, everyone I know isn't a fan of discord's UI.

I stand to gain nothing and I don't even think it's popular sentiment.

For a new user it's completely alien. Trying to get a coworker to try discord for the first time is a nightmare.

It tries to solve so much in such a condensed bar on the side. Why are DM listed "as" a server. I hate the notification system for transient server joins. I have no opinion of the channel system. Why can't you read discord threads of a public discord without joining the server and accepting the posting rules? They're trying to emulate forums but it's a huge PITA to just read (in a RO state, even).

Idk lots of complaints, network effect is a bitch.

Re: A Discord Alternative – Echoed

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Post by hmokiguess »

theturtletalks wrote: post #14
LorenDB wrote: post #4

Why do all the Discord alternative apps try to 1:1 clone Discord's UI? Half of my dislike of Discord stems from its UI.

Have you tried Chatto[0]? Seems to be an open-source Slack and Discord alternative with a nice UI. 0. https://github.com/chattocorp/chatto

Damn this is gorgeous. That said, how can one try something if no one is there? I can sway my team to move it, but not my audience. Discord still owns the market as a medium to reach an audience.

Re: A Discord Alternative – Echoed

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Post by hmokiguess »

saintfire wrote: post #46
virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah; I get the impression that people saying this really mean "I hate the stupid upsells." Which is fine, I do too. But I guess on HN there's more clout to claiming it's the UI that's the problem?

Nah, everyone I know isn't a fan of discord's UI. I stand to gain nothing and I don't even think it's popular sentiment. For a new user it's completely alien. Trying to get a coworker to try discord for the first time is a nightmare. It tries to solve so much in such a condensed bar on the side. Why are DM listed "as" a server. I hate the notification system for transient server joins. I have no opinion of the channe…

Totally, I suspect a lot of people who preach discord here use it for fun and hobby, like some book club or small community.

Try using it at scale, for channeling communities, engaging with users, bots, marketing, and for work with streaming, video, rooms, voice rooms, moderation, etc.

There is an entire universe, even large businesses, built just around navigating Discord for good and for worse.

Turn it into a protocol.

Re: A Discord Alternative – Echoed

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Post by esseph »

Ekaros wrote: post #37
hmokiguess wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have or use Discord for work? E.g. streaming, many calls, etc. Only nitro lets you do those.

Thankfully my company uses Teams. So I don't need Discord for that. As non-nitro uses it works fine for text chat.

> Thankfully my company uses Teams.

Wwooooooowwwww I never thought I'd read that or even a similar statement in my entire life!

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