If studies showed that African women who walk miles and miles collecting water somehow are less depressed than women with local water, I'll be more sold that exercise does something special..
Exercise works for depression. So why isn't it treated like real medicine?
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Re: Exercise works for depression. So why isn't it treated like real medicine?
#72People do not discipline.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBsjhpphowI - 18:20 and on.
Re: Exercise works for depression. So why isn't it treated like real medicine?
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> we are already seeing concerning GI issues emerging from prolonged usage Could you elaborate? I have been looking for a scientific discussion on that topic and coming up with not much.
Here are some hits from a search for “studies on GI problems associated with GLP1's.” I have not read them start to finish but it’s a starting point for you to do your own searches off of. I used Kagi, for reference. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10213739/ https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(25)... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK551568/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9…
Re: Exercise works for depression. So why isn't it treated like real medicine?
#74 > So why isn’t it treated like real medicine?
Because exercise is free, pills are not.Re: Exercise works for depression. So why isn't it treated like real medicine?
#75Just because a thing is true doesn't mean you can apply it. There are vast numbers of active ingredients discovered or developed that are effective in curing many deceases but there aren't "drugs"/pills with it because we haven't found a delivery mechanism for them to be effective where they should in the human body. Going back to the subject: Have you ever been clinically depressed or dealt with people in that predi…
Re: Exercise works for depression. So why isn't it treated like real medicine?
#76I spent a while reading a bunch of papers on it. First of all, keto lowers inflammation. Inflammation harms cognitive function, especially executive function. Also, a bunch of neurological disorders are associated with mitochondrial dysfunction, and keto acts as a "backup" metabolic pathway. (i.e. if your glucose engine is "misfiring", you can burn fat instead, and in some cases that makes the problem go away.)
The trick is adherence. Carbs are very addictive! I was never able to make the diet stick. (Turns out bread is very tasty...)
But from all I've read, it seems like it would help with a bunch of issues I have. So I thought it would be worth mentioning here, in case it helps someone.
Re: Exercise works for depression. So why isn't it treated like real medicine?
#77You can be sold exercise too. Physical therapy exists. Personal trainers exist. Gym memberships, gym influencers, gym culture, and gym products all exist. It's not the inability to sell you a product that stops people from exercising.
Re: Exercise works for depression. So why isn't it treated like real medicine?
#78When people talk about exercise as a treatment for depression, i never imagined they meant such small amounts.
Re: Exercise works for depression. So why isn't it treated like real medicine?
#79> So why isn’t it treated like real medicine? Because exercise is free, pills are not.
If you want to prescribe exercise for someone with this level of depression, you need to prescribe someone to remove the barriers to exercise.
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#80What do you mean exercise isn't treated like real medicine? Doctors have been trying to advocate for people to be more active to help with basically every major health issue for decades. People complain about "ThEy JuSt WaNt To SeLl YoU pIlLs" as if it's not the people who want to solve their health issues by just taking the correct combination of magic pills. You can be sold exercise too. Physical therapy exists. Pe…
It's in the article. How doctors actually recommend it (the complaint of many patients that they are only told, or only hear, "exercise more") versus how medical treatments usually provide plans and guidance. Telling people to exercise more (mostly) doesn't help (especially for people already dealing with reduced motivation from a disorder like depression). Clear, actionable guidance, possibly with a monitored program, that's something patients have more chance of following through on.