Hey dompamine_daddy - would love to chat with you about this for a story on The Register but can't find any contact information. You can find mine here: https://www.theregister.com/author/brandon-vigliarolo Aiming to file this sometime in the afternoon eastern US time today, probably by 3:30 or so.
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All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
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Re: All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
#72Hey dompamine_daddy - would love to chat with you about this for a story on The Register but can't find any contact information. You can find mine here: https://www.theregister.com/author/brandon-vigliarolo Aiming to file this sometime in the afternoon eastern US time today, probably by 3:30 or so.
When you post it, please make sure to highlight according to the author: "this analysis was not conducted with full scientific rigor. I tried my best" The last thing we need is journalists laundering HN fodder as if it is peer reviewed research.
Re: All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
#73lib-left by American standards. Probably roughly center by global standards.
So no, not really center bu European standards.
Re: All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
#74lib-left by American standards. Probably roughly center by global standards.
As an European: in the last 10-15 years the American left went much further left, it’s getting unironically exteemist. So no, not really center bu European standards.
They certainly seem well to the right of Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act or Carter's pardoning of draft dodgers.
Re: All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Conservatives in the media remain firmly convinced, or at least continually post about, how the left has moved so far away from the center that they never consider the possibility that maybe they have moved away from the center. That meme with the line where the two sides are close and then the guy on the left runs away gets posted and reposted so often on places like X that it might as well just be an emoji at this…
I remember how transgender suddenly became a massive issue a couple of years ago. I used to visit the meme site called 9gag a lot, and there was a moment when the platform got flooded with anti-trans content. There were even counter memes where people were joking how obsessed 9gag got with transgenders. This is Taliban level of reality detachment. Who ever got bothered by a transgender?
Politicians can then claim that they're a threat and make laws to persecute people for being trans, and if you have your old stance of "Who cares? Leave them alone.", you're now in the radical woke leftist camp. A prime example of how liberals have run off to the left and left the center behind.
Re: All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
#76lib-left by American standards. Probably roughly center by global standards.
As an European: in the last 10-15 years the American left went much further left, it’s getting unironically exteemist. So no, not really center bu European standards.
We can't even get universal healthcare passed.
Re: All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
#77Re: All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
#78You can go back and compare their archived "analysis" of 2008 candidates to the one for 2020 and see they peg Biden '20 as more auth-right than the fundamentalist Huckabee '08 campaign, while Biden '08 rates more lib-left than Warren 2020, despite his 2008 run being objectively more centrist.
There's a reason their "methodology" is a black box.
Re: All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
#79Any idea where this bias creeps in? During pre-training or RLHF?
Re: All major LLMs are lib-left. Even Grok, half the time
#80Reality has a left wing bias. That's a quote from something. Not sure I agree necessarily, but a plausible explanation.
What is "reality"? Is there really any such thing as ground truth for most things?
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Dick