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Canceling "Hey"

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Re: Canceling "Hey"

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Post by saghm »

eduction wrote: post #39
franze wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Libelous. He never says to shoot Roma. He says to deport foreigners who sleep in parks.

He says to deport literally an entire ethnic group independent of whether they happen to sleep in parks, which is the entire point being made by the article linked to by this page where we're commenting. The comment you're responding to also restates this, without making any claims about whether he said to shoot people, so your objection doesn't really make any sense in that regard either.

Re: Canceling "Hey"

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Post by elohssa »

jakubadamw wrote: post #51

DHH’s blog post was, to put it simply, spot on. You disagree with that, and that’s fine. But to cancel a subscription for another service entirely, because someone used a blog platform of the same provider to publish something you were repulsed by – this seems like a really bizarre way of managing your emotion. By this logic I should feel compelled to delete my HN account, delete all my social media and cancel all pr…

DHH co-owns 37signals, the company that created hey.com.

Re: Canceling "Hey"

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Post by eduction »

One thing this post never does is actually meaningfully argue with the core idea of the post that so outraged them.

Which is: If someone comes illegally to your country and ends up sleeping in parks, they should be deported.

I don’t know if I agree with that but the post seems to take it for granted that any reasonable person cannot.

To me this is more a fashion statement than an argument. Advocating deportations is automatically bad, using the word “gypsy” is automatically offensive. It’s silly. Pretty much everyone has some line of behavior at which they advocate deportation, and can anyone here who is upset actually explain why “Roma” is less offensive than “Gypsy”? There are PhDs in Eastern European history who can’t do that.

Re: Canceling "Hey"

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Post by [deleted] »

roughly wrote: post #16

I live in Oakland. Something I've noticed in a lot of the "THE CITY IS GOING TO HELL" commentary is that often people are pointing at visual symptoms - a homeless encampment, graffiti - as a proxy for "things are bad," and it doesn't take a lot of pulling on that thread before you get to "well just look at them," and it's real hard to cast that one in a "race-neutral" way. I've heard people complaining about hot dog…

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Re: Canceling "Hey"

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Post by borromakot »

It is sad that such a song and dance is required when anyone with half a brain can read the racism in DHH's post.

Imagine a scenario that a black family moved into your neighborhood and started causing a bunch of problems. There are no other black people in the neighborhood.

It should take you a picosecond to figure out which one of these is obviously racist and which isn't:

"We need to remove the black people from our neighborhood"

"We need to remove the new family from our neighborhood"

People like "well he has a good point they are causing problems" so technically the set of "black people" and "people who are currently causing problems in our neighborhood" are the same set. This is irrelevant.

Re: Canceling "Hey"

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Post by flumpcakes »

flockonus wrote: post #38

I do find the author position to be incoherent in the following regard: 1. believe a statement can be true or false, and false should be called out. 2. believe deportation is morally wrong in certain cases, that is, the law can be selectively broken. I personally believe laws should always be enforced and followed. That eliminates margin for corruption and lenience. A strong law also creates incentive for the populat…

I think DHH's comments are pretty mild given the subject. However, I think it is how he frames his comments that cause offensive - lumping a (potentially) problematic (arguably) ethnic group of people in with animal control...

Re: Canceling "Hey"

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Post by pron »

yzydserd wrote: post #17
mplewis wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disgusting. I want to say that DHH has fallen so far, but I don't actually see any evidence that he wasn't this hateful inside his heart years ago.

Here he was last year championing the Far Right in England https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64

Oh, wow.

> large gathering of perfectly normal, peaceful Brits

Let's just say that when a Tommy Robinson crowd walk into a pub, the perfectly normal, peaceful Brits look for the exits.

Re: Canceling "Hey"

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Post by simianparrot »

andrewflnr wrote: post #12

This is trying far too hard to be charitable. Mistake theory is great, and it's good that the article mentions it, but it then also presents sufficient evidence to prove, or at least substantiate, malice. At this point not having "bad feelings toward DHH" is itself a "Missing Mood". At any rate, though, the author took the correct action. Wolves are also pretty important, by the way. Hopefully we all know that by now…

Sure but I don't want wolves eating my children.
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