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#12This is trying far too hard to be charitable. Mistake theory is great, and it's good that the article mentions it, but it then also presents sufficient evidence to prove, or at least substantiate, malice. At this point not having "bad feelings toward DHH" is itself a "Missing Mood". At any rate, though, the author took the correct action.
Wolves are also pretty important, by the way. Hopefully we all know that by now?
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#13the discussed blogpost https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a
Disgusting. I want to say that DHH has fallen so far, but I don't actually see any evidence that he wasn't this hateful inside his heart years ago.
DHH has had a long decline, in my personal regard. A lot of things I ignored or gave grace for because of his early influence were actually clear signals about his fundamental beliefs.
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#14If you read canceling as part of the "cancel culture" and not canceling the subscription, then this two statements seam contradictory > Cancelling "Hey" > I definitely don't believe in trying to change people's minds by shouting at them or shaming them
I'm not a native speaker but
> I definitely don't believe in trying to change people's minds by shouting at them or shaming them
seems to me like they want to make a (polite) argument instead of explicitly calling them “heretic” to quote the article.
They also quite obviously seem to refer to cancellling the subscription here and not trying to invoke "cancel culture". The first few paragraphs make this quite clear.
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#16I live in Oakland. Something I've noticed in a lot of the "THE CITY IS GOING TO HELL" commentary is that often people are pointing at visual symptoms - a homeless encampment, graffiti - as a proxy for "things are bad," and it doesn't take a lot of pulling on that thread before you get to "well just look at them," and it's real hard to cast that one in a "race-neutral" way. I've heard people complaining about hot dog vendors on the street as some kind of public nuisance, I've heard people point to wall murals as a sign of moral decay. Fine, that's your jam, that's what the suburbs are for, but if you don't like seeing poor people, make a society that doesn't create so goddamn many of them.
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#17the discussed blogpost https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a
Disgusting. I want to say that DHH has fallen so far, but I don't actually see any evidence that he wasn't this hateful inside his heart years ago.
Here he was last year championing the Far Right in England https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
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Based on the content of the post, it seems like it would be adequate to find an email platform run by people not vocally calling for the ethnic cleansing of minorities.
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#19I used to admire that guy. I don't understand why anyone still works at Basecamp with posts like this to be honest. How do people justify it to themselves? Maybe it's just harder to switch jobs now with AI, I don't know.
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#20Hey is the only way I can have a public, usable email account anymore.
I maintain a self-hosted whitelist-only email account for sensitive work but email for other purposes just isn't tenable anymore.
If someone else comes along with a better product maybe I'll consider it.