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Re: Did they ghost you?

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I was once ghosted mid interview day. They left me in conference room and completely forgot. I was going to walk out after 30 minutes but I just wanted to see how long I could stay there. It took them five hours. And this was in a “highly secure” building so not sure how they invite someone to interview and let them just hangout inside the building for five hours.

> It took them five hours.

Presumably the Yucca plant in the corner put on a spurt of growth after your visit?

Re: Did they ghost you?

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my friend had been waiting for offer after passing final interview, but recruiter suddenly went silent. she responded nearly 2 years after saying that she had been on parental leave (yeah it's this long in our country), and he would have to start whole process again. of course he moved on and never applied to this company again

Re: Did they ghost you?

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Ghosted by Apple here. Devops or SRE job for services teams if I'm remembering right. Did a months worth of rounds. Was told the offer letter would be coming within the next week. Turned down other companies on the gamble that it was actually coming. Never came. Pinged recruiter and finally after a month was told they stopped hiring and would reach back out in a few months when it started back. Never happened. That w…

They responded as soon as you reached out. I don't think that counts as ghosting

Re: Did they ghost you?

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You can just take the other offer while you wait and then quit when the one you really want comes in.

I did that, and had to take a bollocking from the HR guy at the company I took the first offer from, but I don't regret it.

Depending on how long I'd been there, I would just do it over email/in-writing even if it was an office job.

Re: Did they ghost you?

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You can just take the other offer while you wait and then quit when the one you really want comes in.

Agreed and I would offer this advice to any junior struggling with the morality of the situation. I had a few reality checks to learn about larger companies and business in general.

Yep, nobody's ever going to care more about you than you, triply so at work.

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The EU has tons of regulations on this stuff and we see what "innovation" they have. No thanks. Relationship? There is no relationship. It is a business transaction. Both parties are free to leave at any point.

>we see what "innovation" they have. Yes, a much more stable job market, the ability for its leaders to pass bills, and actual resistance against the so called immigration people are all up in arms about.Turns out you can manage that without creates a domestic scare campaign. And what have they done with it practically? Breakthroughs in sustainability and environmental technology, materials engineering, neuroscienc,…

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Re: Did they ghost you?

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I spent a lot of time thinking about this, actually. If this silly idea became law, companies would find some lawyer-approved boilerplate that would satisfy the silly law and accomplish nothing. Nothing would change. I guess you would say the candidate could sue because the company didn't provide warm fuzzy custom-tailored apologies about why they didn't fall in love? Or a specific "reason"? Is a judge going to adjud…

Listing six months in jail and acting like full punishment would have to be the first resort is a clear strawman. Fines are all we need. But even if we ignored fines entirely, one day of jail would be plenty. Your original comment makes it sound like there's no reasonable way to enforce the law. There is. You send reminders and warnings and escalate to a fine after a certain point. Also I think you could figure out a…

Again, what is the benefit exactly? Avoiding hurt feelings? Are people's skins that thin?

You cannot enforce this one way and not the other. Interviewing and hiring and managing a company takes a lot of time. What if a candidate "ghosts" me? Can I sue him for hurting my feelings?

I seriously have to think this is a parody or joke. Nobody with a real job can think this way haha.

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Listing six months in jail and acting like full punishment would have to be the first resort is a clear strawman. Fines are all we need. But even if we ignored fines entirely, one day of jail would be plenty. Your original comment makes it sound like there's no reasonable way to enforce the law. There is. You send reminders and warnings and escalate to a fine after a certain point. Also I think you could figure out a…

Again, what is the benefit exactly? Avoiding hurt feelings? Are people's skins that thin? You cannot enforce this one way and not the other. Interviewing and hiring and managing a company takes a lot of time. What if a candidate "ghosts" me? Can I sue him for hurting my feelings? I seriously have to think this is a parody or joke. Nobody with a real job can think this way haha.

> Again, what is the benefit exactly? Avoiding hurt feelings? Are people's skins that thin?

Knowing what you did wrong.

Wouldn't a reason for rejection potentially increase hurt feelings, and that's why there's so much ghosting? I don't understand this objection, I thought I was the one annoyed at thin skins in the interview scenario.

> What if a candidate "ghosts" me? Can I sue him for hurting my feelings?

The reason you think this is a parody or joke is because you keep jumping to ridiculous scenarios that have nothing to do with the actual request. The actual request is to spend one or two minutes on an email, which is barely anything compared to the entire interview you already did with them.

If this rule applied, they would just have to say why they ghosted you. That's it.

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At least my experience in the professional world, if the provided reference says anything negative about the interviewee it’s a massive red flag. Maybe you don’t think that way, but for every position I have ever posted you’ll get at least 100 applicants, and each of them take a massive amount of time to interview and get through the system to hire. That reference is one more thing that helps. Better yet, it’s great…

>Like when it comes to dating, are you going to date a random person that you know nothing about That's literally modern dating in a nutshell. Anyone not dating in their 2nd/3rd degree circle is going to the apps. More than anything, though: I don't really get modern references because they are some of the easiest things to be faked. And if for whatever reason they require your last manager... well, what can you do i…

I am not sure references are easily faked. Especially in industries where there aren't a whole lot of references that someone is not going to know. "Hey Bob, I have this excellent candidate for the position you are looking for they have X qualities", much more likely to get an interview than the person from Indeed. That's simply reality.

As for a manager, you may not have their contact information, but seems like relevant information to keep ahold of for professional networking. So yes, it seems like you are making easy excuses that in a competitive hiring environment would quickly get you excluded from the pool of applicants.

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