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The US is charging an American citizen for wiping his phone at the border

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Re: The US is charging an American citizen for wiping his phone at the border

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"If you’re a fan of privacy in our age of creeping digital authoritarianism, there’s one famously effective way to pass through U.S. Customs at an airport without worrying about a device search: travel with a burner phone only." What about setting your phone from the get go to store all data on the micro sim card ? Then, when traveling through airports, swap out for another micro sim that has some small, useless data…

I thought the play was to travel with a burner and mail the real phone to a drop somewhere in the destination country. Supposing you could just put all your sensitive data on a microsim or microsd and do the same thing, but this all feels like different colored wrappers on the same piece of candy: don't bring data you want to keep secret to the place where they're allowed to use force to steal secret data. Obv packages are subject to search and seizure at borders the same way you and your phone are but a package in the mail has the advantage of volume and relative anonymity. There are a lot of packages and not enough resources to seize and search all of them, and it's harder to tie the package to a person or entity that warrants increased suspicion if it's mailed anonymously from another country than it is to tie a phone to the guy whose pocket it was in when he tried to cross the border.

Re: The US is charging an American citizen for wiping his phone at the border

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> Graphene OS has a duress password and PIN, which “will irreversibly wipe the device (along with any installed eSIMs) once entered anywhere where the device credentials are requested.” iOS kinda also offers such a solution, though a bit more suspicious to perform: "Erase all data on this iPhone after 10 failed passcode attempts"

But if the data is backed up on iCloud, Apple will provide it with a warrant.

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Re: The US is charging an American citizen for wiping his phone at the border

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That, whatever it means, cannot mean losses of personal rights.

Most countries disagree?

("Most", is to be verified.)

These times will not be remembered as a pinnacle in the stages of Civilization. On the contrary, immensely barbaric and dark ages.

Re: The US is charging an American citizen for wiping his phone at the border

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Warrantless searches are a violation of the Fourth Amendment and thereby your constitutional rights.

Obviously border agents need to be able to check your bags for contraband but checking all your gmails just because they want to? That's antithetical to the spirit of the law. That is overreach that does not stand up to scrutiny.

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Most countries disagree?

("Most", is to be verified.) These times will not be remembered as a pinnacle in the stages of Civilization. On the contrary, immensely barbaric and dark ages.

Sure buddy, and WW1/2 were walks in the park.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

("Most", is to be verified.) These times will not be remembered as a pinnacle in the stages of Civilization. On the contrary, immensely barbaric and dark ages.

Sure buddy, and WW1/2 were walks in the park.

And why would pointing to what may seem to be indicated as times of violence attack the idea of these current being times of ignorance (and after all that was done to provide remedies against ignorance).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure buddy, and WW1/2 were walks in the park.

And why would pointing to what may seem to be indicated as times of violence attack the idea of these current being times of ignorance (and after all that was done to provide remedies against ignorance).

Your statements appear to be notably myopic.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And why would pointing to what may seem to be indicated as times of violence attack the idea of these current being times of ignorance (and after all that was done to provide remedies against ignorance).

Your statements appear to be notably myopic.

Show it. If your argument would be that these times would be much better than those of one century ago, prove it. If you believe that these times would be "civilized", and not «immensely barbaric and dark ages», argument it.

What I said was, in reply to the note that entering a country could be considered a privilege (could not be considered a right), that nowadays the authoritativeness of countries is very greatly diminished compared to a standard.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your statements appear to be notably myopic.

Show it. If your argument would be that these times would be much better than those of one century ago, prove it. If you believe that these times would be "civilized", and not «immensely barbaric and dark ages», argument it. What I said was, in reply to the note that entering a country could be considered a privilege (could not be considered a right), that nowadays the authoritativeness of countries is very greatly d…

a claim without evidence can be dismissed just as easily. you’re the one making a claim it’s particularly barbaric right now, compared to… pretty much the rest of human history presumably?

it’s pretty boring recapping Stalin, Hitler, Ghenghis Khan, Khmer Rouge, the Red Scare/McCarthyism, etc.

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