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Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
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Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
#362Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would argue that they actually don’t lack talent, they have an insane bench of really smart people. What they lack is any sort of direction and leadership. They are a ship lost in the ocean and up until now have been lucky to find a few treasures along the their way.
> they have an insane bench of really smart people. Filtered heavily into those who care only about money. Many don’t want to work there. Smart people have other choices.
Thank you. I agree. I hope this is the new learned sentiment for Meta employees.
Smart? Check.
Money-obsessed and soulless? Check.
Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
#363Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, they thing forever and doubt everything "wait but" for 200k tokens for almost any question.
On the flip side, I really like being able to inspect its reasoning chain thoroughly, as opposed to the "black box" that Anthropic models are now.
Genuine question, is the reasoning chain different from clicking the status bar under a reply and watching it "think"? Or selecting the "Thinking" transcript view in Claude Code? (both on the desktop app). Seems to me that is very out in the open
Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
#364now, it gives 404 lol :)
Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
#365We already know that competition brought GLM 5.2 prices down roughly 45% since its release on June 16th (1.5 months ago), and the price downward slope is probably still going (I've been checking regularly and new providers keep fighting on price, I don't think prices have settled yet). For reference : https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.2#providers I saw arguments like "Providers cannot price less than their costs" in o…
Press x to doubt on the 45% number. The cheaper providers on open router are fp4 vs fp8 for official zai. There are some cheap fp8 ones (like novita) but the ui makes it seem like it's a temporary promotion, with their normal prices being almost equal to official zai (idk much about open router so not really sure what's going on with these discounts)
Yes it's true that it's not super clear whether these prices are permanent or short term promotions. On the other hand, there are so many providers making promotional offerings that you could probably easily switch from one to another should their prices go up?
Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
#366Getting 404 on the OP's link. Does it mean it got banned or self-censored in the meantime?
It's up now
Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
#367Strange communists, giving away such an expensive model to the public. On the other note, can't wait to see 1bit quantisation soon and how it performs in benchmarks, if it performs really well in benchmarks, would be very good news for GPU hosting providers, to offer "Opus 4.5 level model at the cost of Haiku 4.5"
I think China publishing this stuff is more about prestige. The US has had export controls that make it illegal to sell Nvidia chips, and other AI hardware to China, and this is China saying "yeah, whatever". Also, it weakens western tech companies' position in AI, and pushes CCP bias perniciously. Building your product/company on top of a text-generation model that favours the CCP position on everything is just peak propaganda.
Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
#368Did the link change or anything? Getting 404 Sorry, we can't find the page you are looking for.
It's up.
Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
#369There's no going back on this. This is putting a very capable intelligence in the hands of the masses. Private companies in the US are aching for Trump's protectionism but it'll do nothing. The hardware needed to run this is ofc prohibitive, but actually putting it out there feels like a 'RSA source code on t-shirt' moment for humanity.
a "moment for humanity"? as if this shit isn't going to generate 99% slop at the cost of all we have left as a species?
Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace
#370It’s out now.