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The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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Re: The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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That's the first time I've heard microtonal work in a rock setting. Pretty good! I see your added frets, and raise "add frets on the fly using Lego": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPCEImSfCwc

> That's the first time I've heard microtonal work in a rock setting. Pretty good! Really? I highly recommend Flying Microtonal Banana.

> Really?

Really? Most people's first intro to microtonal guitar is recent and brought to them by Angine de Poitrine.

Re: The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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There are those who say it isn't a chord until you have 3 notes. I'm going to skip the complex music theory behind the arguments (I haven't studied them enough to understand much less form an opinion). Of course in most music contexts there is more than one instrument playing and so the others can fill in the missing note making a full chord. Only a "one-man-band" really feels the loss.

Power chords only have two notes (although more than two octaves, I don't know if you count that)

What do you mean about more than two octaves? The basic power chord is 3 notes, for example E2 + B2 + E3. One of those is an octave.

Re: The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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12 strings is one thing, but how about microtonal? That's instead of adding strings, you add frets! If you haven't heard them yet, you're in for a wild ride: https://www.youtube.com/@AnginePoitrine

It is still worth noting that the microtones used by Angine de Poitrine are usually just transient notes, and could instead be played portamento with smooth transitions between the notes (eg on a fretless board) in most situations. It still sounds really cool, though, and certainly a technical and musical accomplishment. But the music itself still follows the usual patterns closely.

Re: The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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12 strings is one thing, but how about microtonal? That's instead of adding strings, you add frets! If you haven't heard them yet, you're in for a wild ride: https://www.youtube.com/@AnginePoitrine

A bit spotty, but alright; meanwhile the Italian instrument makers said guitar-harp? Hold our expressos, this'll take some discipline: * https://www.delta-harp.com/ * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdUztFVwi3I

Never having played a harp, whats the advantage here (beyond cool factor) over an equivalent electric guitar?

Re: The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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Whimpy-ass chords. You need three or more notes for a serious(tm) chord.

Five for the Hendrix Chord, E7♯9 ;-) That's E, G♯, B, D, F

Every jazz player knows you can drop the fifth, and the root too if the bass is filling it in. That gives your fingers room to add even crazier extensions

Re: The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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The author is Gregg Miner, and Gregg has an extensive library of harp guitar music. A long time ago I met Gregg when one of my friends Brad Hoyt (a keyboard and harp guitarist as well) hosted a harp guitar convention here in Indianapolis, and I got recruited to help. Gregg and the rest of the artists that were there were extremely approachable, and most of the crowd were musicians (some pretty famous ones, too) check…

Apparently there was a gathering of harp guitarists here in North Little Rock at a guitar shop that recently opened just down the street from where I live last year: https://www.harpguitars.net/2025/11/29/hgg23-in-north-little...

I was totally unfamiliar with harp guitar but I am sad that I missed such a special gathering!

Re: The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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12 strings is one thing, but how about microtonal? That's instead of adding strings, you add frets! If you haven't heard them yet, you're in for a wild ride: https://www.youtube.com/@AnginePoitrine

Why frets? Orchestral strings don’t use frets.

Sustain

in college a good friend was a very good Oud player (plucked, some number of strings.... more than 8? I forget), and it definitely sounds different from guitar due to less sustain. Clearer notes and chords, but they don't linger as long or loud.

Edit: apparently it's 11 strings? ok.

Re: The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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Five for the Hendrix Chord, E7♯9 ;-) That's E, G♯, B, D, F

Every jazz player knows you can drop the fifth, and the root too if the bass is filling it in. That gives your fingers room to add even crazier extensions

Oh man have you seen the Adam Neely video "Seven Level of Jazz Harmony"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3WR-F_pnM

If not, stop and watch it. But make a cup of tea to enjoy with it first, and maybe put a cloth over your keyboard for when you inevitably splutter tea all over it.

Re: The Birth of the American 12-string Guitar (2013)

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That's the first time I've heard microtonal work in a rock setting. Pretty good! I see your added frets, and raise "add frets on the fly using Lego": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPCEImSfCwc

> That's the first time I've heard microtonal work in a rock setting. Pretty good! Really? I highly recommend Flying Microtonal Banana.

Awesome band. Most of their songs sound so familiar to me because they are actually influenced by our folk music. :)
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