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Magnolias are so old that they're pollinated by beetles, not bees (2025)

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Re: Magnolias are so old that they're pollinated by beetles, not bees (2025)

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A lot of plants aren’t pollinated by bees. There’s pollinator wasps, flies, moths, butterflies… even birds and bats are pollinators

My pawpaws (Asimina triloba) mainly need (house) flies to pollinate. They make their flowers look like meat. I have a couple 100 foot rows of them, it's tricky to get good pollination.

You grow these commercially? Always wondering where I can buy good quality ones when they're in season (in NYC area)

Re: Magnolias are so old that they're pollinated by beetles, not bees (2025)

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Pretty sure I see many bees on Magnolias.

My magnolia is the only thing that seems to attract honeybees, which I rarely see otherwise. The article doesn't seem to justify the "not bees" part, though. I'd imagine bees can pollinate them too.

You should plant clover. You'll get plenty of bees.

Re: Magnolias are so old that they're pollinated by beetles, not bees (2025)

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My pawpaws (Asimina triloba) mainly need (house) flies to pollinate. They make their flowers look like meat. I have a couple 100 foot rows of them, it's tricky to get good pollination.

You grow these commercially? Always wondering where I can buy good quality ones when they're in season (in NYC area)

No, from those trees we basically only get enough for personal consumption because fruit bearing (so far) is so unreliable.

Also, southern Ontario.

Re: Magnolias are so old that they're pollinated by beetles, not bees (2025)

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My pawpaws (Asimina triloba) mainly need (house) flies to pollinate. They make their flowers look like meat. I have a couple 100 foot rows of them, it's tricky to get good pollination.

My grandpappy told me that if you want a good crop of pawpaws you have to hang a dead cat in the tree. I think dead cats were in greater supply back in his day. Fascinating flowers for a tree though. Red meat color and odor only a fly could love. For anyone that’s close, go to the upcoming Ohio Pawpaw festival! https://ohiopawpawfest.com/

Yeah I've wondered about just really nasty ass stinky fresh manure around the base of each tree. That would attract flies.

Probably a flush of nitrogen at exactly the wrong time tho. Most plants respond to that by pushing excess green growth instead of flowering and fruit set.

Re: Magnolias are so old that they're pollinated by beetles, not bees (2025)

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My pawpaws (Asimina triloba) mainly need (house) flies to pollinate. They make their flowers look like meat. I have a couple 100 foot rows of them, it's tricky to get good pollination.

You grow these commercially? Always wondering where I can buy good quality ones when they're in season (in NYC area)

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Re: Magnolias are so old that they're pollinated by beetles, not bees (2025)

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A lot of plants aren’t pollinated by bees. There’s pollinator wasps, flies, moths, butterflies… even birds and bats are pollinators

One of those moths is this guy, who (in flight, not so much in still images) looks and sounds like a miniature hummingbird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingbird_hawk-moth

Finding hawk moth caterpillars on my tomato plant was one of the bigger wtfs of my adult life

Re: Magnolias are so old that they're pollinated by beetles, not bees (2025)

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My pawpaws (Asimina triloba) mainly need (house) flies to pollinate. They make their flowers look like meat. I have a couple 100 foot rows of them, it's tricky to get good pollination.

You grow these commercially? Always wondering where I can buy good quality ones when they're in season (in NYC area)

Email me and I can connect you with some. There is a FB group for folks growing them in the NYC area, plus a list of all the parks where they are planted.

Re: Magnolias are so old that they're pollinated by beetles, not bees (2025)

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Are they? They are smarter than web-spinning spiders but I've never read anything suggesting they are smarter than bees. https://www.nature.com/articles/nrn3357

Obviously you can't give them an IQ test but all the data I've seen (and I am no expert here) shows they are possible the smartest arthropod out there. There are of course different species of jumping spider so mileage may vary.

That’s definitely the premise Adrian Tchaikovsky’s Children of Time haha
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