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Everyone is talking about banning Chinese models but nobody talks how it is feasible to ban them. I think it’s impossible simply because technically there is no such thing as a “Chinese model”. There is no way to tell apart an “American” model from a “Chinese” one by looking at their weights. Weights are just numbers and you can’t assign country of origin to numbers. One can find very easy workarounds to any naive at…
I would call you "sore losers", but as I know how insane you actually are, you might just start a war.
(Yes yes, they "stole from you", and "Tiananmen square", and "Uigur genocide", and.. and I just can't wait for the monent someone locks your crazyness behind the bars of an asylum.)
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Ridiculous. If investors wish to set their money on fire investing in over-valued companies, they are welcome to do so. Protectionism to preserve ROI is a dumb policy. Just look at the US car industry. We're building dinosaurs. On this trajectory we'll have 0% market share abroad in 10 years. Chinese EVs will probably get market share at a 100% tariff because US automakers fell so far behind. Same situation in protec…
FYI, developers of frontier models taking steps to prevent their weights from being stolen is not "protectionism". If you guard your wallet from being stolen is that protectionism?
Plus it's not like Anthropic has any technical advantage over the Chinese LLM providers, they just have access to more compute. Once sufficient compute becomes available it's nothing special, the math for LLMs is extremely basic, any reasonably trained CS masters/PhD student can ramp up to SOTA in a year or two.
Everyone is talking about banning Chinese models but nobody talks how it is feasible to ban them. I think it’s impossible simply because technically there is no such thing as a “Chinese model”. There is no way to tell apart an “American” model from a “Chinese” one by looking at their weights. Weights are just numbers and you can’t assign country of origin to numbers. One can find very easy workarounds to any naive at…
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FYI, developers of frontier models taking steps to prevent their weights from being stolen is not "protectionism". If you guard your wallet from being stolen is that protectionism?
Who cares? Distillation is in the same class of theft as Anthropic stealing their data in the first place. By all means, Anthropic can try to prevent distillation. It'll be like holding back a storm surge with a single bag of sand. At the very least it'll be entertaining. Plus it's not like Anthropic has any technical advantage over the Chinese LLM providers, they just have access to more compute. Once sufficient com…
Anthropic's advantage comes from being an American company. I'll leave you with this quote:
China can draw on a talent pool of 1.3 billion people, but the United States can draw on a talent pool of 7 billion and recombine them in a diverse culture that enhances creativity in a way that ethnic Han nationalism cannot. --Lee Kuan Yew
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There is no way Deepseek is making money even on inference
Pretty sure they are making money since on OpenRouter, there are other providers for DeepSeek V4 flash that are charging even less than DeepSeek themselves (eg DeepInfra and Digital Ocean). https://openrouter.ai/compare/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash/ten...