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Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace

#31
We already know that competition brought GLM 5.2 prices down roughly 45% since its release on June 16th (1.5 months ago), and the price downward slope is probably still going (I've been checking regularly and new providers keep fighting on price, I don't think prices have settled yet). For reference : https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.2#providers

I saw arguments like "Providers cannot price less than their costs" in other comments. In economics, it's generally admitted that they shouldn't price less than their marginal costs, i.e. in their case roughly the cost of electricity, since a lot of these datacenters are not at capacity in terms of graphics cards usage (speculation since it's very easy to rent a GC for a couple hours on some providers). My guess is that someone will be selling tokens at less than electricity + depreciation of GCs soon, since there's a lot of competition and "smaller" data centers have overcapacity? This is speculation, correct me if I'm wrong

Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

or 27/7 for the rest of the world

No, 27-7 for the rest of the world. The separator is often the only way to distinguish American notation from ISO, so please use a dash for dd-mm-yy and a forward slash for mm/dd/yy

Nope,

There are quite some countries around the world using d/m/y

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_date_formats_by_countr...

Algeria, Belgium, Brazil, Chile...

Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace

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Why is there a countdown?

You're not having a party?

I think it's shameful that Moonshot isn't providing us with party kits like Microsoft did with the Windows 7 Launch Party kit. How am I supposed to properly celebrate this without fun Kimi-themed quizzes for my guests?

Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace

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post #24
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

or 27/7 for the rest of the world

No, 27-7 for the rest of the world. The separator is often the only way to distinguish American notation from ISO, so please use a dash for dd-mm-yy and a forward slash for mm/dd/yy

I've never seen dd-mm-yy. It's usually dd.mm.yy, dd.mm.yyyy, or yyyy-mm-dd, with some dd/mm/yy sprinkled in for general confusion.

Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace

#37
is there a realistic way to distill 2 consumer hardware friendly models with max ~200B and ~20B? Qwen did it, but would it be possible for 3rd parties (unsloth etc)?

Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace

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post #31

We already know that competition brought GLM 5.2 prices down roughly 45% since its release on June 16th (1.5 months ago), and the price downward slope is probably still going (I've been checking regularly and new providers keep fighting on price, I don't think prices have settled yet). For reference : https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.2#providers I saw arguments like "Providers cannot price less than their costs" in o…

Press x to doubt on the 45% number. The cheaper providers on open router are fp4 vs fp8 for official zai. There are some cheap fp8 ones (like novita) but the ui makes it seem like it's a temporary promotion, with their normal prices being almost equal to official zai (idk much about open router so not really sure what's going on with these discounts)

Re: Kimi-K3 on HuggingFace

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This will be interesting for a few reasons. First, depending on where the median pricing settles w/ 3rd party providers will tell us what it costs to serve a 3T model. Since it's going to be mxfp4 native, it'll take ~1.5TB of VRAM to host this, which is juuust at the limit of 8xb200s (but realistically you'll need 16x for context / throughput optimisation). Won't be cheap to host, but at least we should get some rang…

> if "labs are subsidising tokens on API pricing" > SemiAnalysis estimates that Anthropic's current blended gross margin has risen to the mid-60% range, with the API business gross margin exceeding 80% Of course, people will insist "they are lying", "why should we believe them, it's well known they subsidize API pricing", ... https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/anthropic-3q26-profit-... https://finance.biggo.com/ne…

That numner blends in training or no?
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