I saw arguments like "Providers cannot price less than their costs" in other comments. In economics, it's generally admitted that they shouldn't price less than their marginal costs, i.e. in their case roughly the cost of electricity, since a lot of these datacenters are not at capacity in terms of graphics cards usage (speculation since it's very easy to rent a GC for a couple hours on some providers). My guess is that someone will be selling tokens at less than electricity + depreciation of GCs soon, since there's a lot of competition and "smaller" data centers have overcapacity? This is speculation, correct me if I'm wrong
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#33Did someone run censorship and political bias tests on this ? Must be interesting.
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or 27/7 for the rest of the world
No, 27-7 for the rest of the world. The separator is often the only way to distinguish American notation from ISO, so please use a dash for dd-mm-yy and a forward slash for mm/dd/yy
There are quite some countries around the world using d/m/y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_date_formats_by_countr...
Algeria, Belgium, Brazil, Chile...
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
or 27/7 for the rest of the world
No, 27-7 for the rest of the world. The separator is often the only way to distinguish American notation from ISO, so please use a dash for dd-mm-yy and a forward slash for mm/dd/yy
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#39We already know that competition brought GLM 5.2 prices down roughly 45% since its release on June 16th (1.5 months ago), and the price downward slope is probably still going (I've been checking regularly and new providers keep fighting on price, I don't think prices have settled yet). For reference : https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.2#providers I saw arguments like "Providers cannot price less than their costs" in o…
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#40This will be interesting for a few reasons. First, depending on where the median pricing settles w/ 3rd party providers will tell us what it costs to serve a 3T model. Since it's going to be mxfp4 native, it'll take ~1.5TB of VRAM to host this, which is juuust at the limit of 8xb200s (but realistically you'll need 16x for context / throughput optimisation). Won't be cheap to host, but at least we should get some rang…
> if "labs are subsidising tokens on API pricing" > SemiAnalysis estimates that Anthropic's current blended gross margin has risen to the mid-60% range, with the API business gross margin exceeding 80% Of course, people will insist "they are lying", "why should we believe them, it's well known they subsidize API pricing", ... https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/anthropic-3q26-profit-... https://finance.biggo.com/ne…