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There are so few sites where I really need cross-site logins to work that an opt-in would be much more preferable.
Have all sites set cookies on whichever third party they want, but don't share those cookies over. Add an explicit "Do you really want foo.com to share data with bar.com?" if you really need to see those facebook comments on your news site.
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I do but we shouldn’t be talking about cookies in our cookie banner then.
That's why the usual phrasing is some variation of "Are we allowed to track you? We use cookies for that". It was never about the cookies themselves. That just happened to be the most common form of tracking in use when the GDPR was originally written. Cookie-less tracking still requires a consent prompt, tracking-less cookies never required one.
> it was never about the cookies themselves.
The ePrivacy directive was about cookies. GDPR is about user consent and data handling - the cookie banner is from the ePrivacy directive.
> Cookie-less tracking still requires a consent prompt, tracking-less cookies never required one.
Where in the GDPR or ePrivacy directive does it say cookie less tracking requires a consent prompt?
And on tracking-less cookies not requiring one - that’s my entire point.
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Because it doesn't mean anything specific and breaks entire business models (merely logging that you landed from an ad click and seeing if you check out counts as 'tracking,' doesn't it?) if interpreted purely literally. So, the only way to treat it is to either ignore it or to just send back an error code and message that says "Sorry, having some tracking is the condition to get this free content. Accept or don't."…
> "Sorry, having some tracking is the condition to get this free content. Accept or don't." The law that caused the cookie banners also says companies cannot block access to the site if the cookies are not required for the functioning of the site. Some German news sites have broken this and have "accept or pay" and I think this leaked to news sites in other countries. Facebook even tried it. So, sure, if DNT is true,…
- even if you accept the tracking, you might still not be able to read the article, because while the site may be free in principle if you accept ads, that specific article is not.
- and the most annoying thing is that such paywalled articles show up on Google News. Not sure if they're tricking Google into showing them (by showing the full article to search crawlers, but the paywall to actual users), or if this is some understanding between Google and EU news providers, but it's annoying...
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>breaks entire business models So do car alarms. I'm not convinced this is a business model I want to exist. We had an internet before it, and Google, and Facebook. I'm increasingly sad we can't return to it.
Let me be clear, I can't stand the social-media industrial complex and the advertising universe. I've seen the bottom that we've raced to, with absolute bullshit popping up everywhere and entire sites full of slop with clickbait "headlines" just rigged to get ad impressions. And I'd gladly trade today's BS for any version of "The Internet" pre-2007. But the "Before" Internet wasn't some natural sustainable state. Bef…
Now, if you want to read an article you have to pay $20/month to that news organization in perpetuity. I don’t see how that can be expected to work.
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No, its the website's choice. They want to track you. The government said they need permission to do that. They could offer a better experience by just not tracking you.
The result is entirely predictable. They picked it.
> Tired of misleading cookie banners? The EU Commission has finally proposed a solution: set your privacy preferences in the browser once, and never see another banner. Unfortunately, the tracking industry is pushing back – and so far, they’ve been successful. > ... > You may think that EU privacy law requires cookie banners. But the law is clear: online tracking is prohibited by default. That's an excellent idea...…
Don't worry. I'm sure EU legislation will solve nuisances that are solely a creation of EU legislation.
Does anybody here know of a better solution?
[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/consent-o-mat...