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Re: Kill The Cookie Banner

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Post by dredmorbius »

TurdF3rguson wrote: post #429
IanCal wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not about cookies. It’s about what the site is allowed to do with your data. Cookies are an implementation detail. It’s baffling we’re having this misunderstanding on this site in 2026 still.

Is there any other way to get that data? It's clearly about cookies but it's specifically about tracking cookies.

Supercookies: https://www.comparitech.com/identity-theft-protection/superc...> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/09/new-cookie-technologie...> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/verizon-x-uidh>

Browser fingerprinting / Panopticlick: https://ssd.eff.org/module/what-fingerprinting> https://panopticlick.org/>

On-device identifiers --- Google AdID (GAID), Apple IDFA, etc.: https://developer.transmitsecurity.com/guides/risk/secure_de...> https://geraguard.com/blog/how-device-fingerprinting-works-m...> https://alejandrocordon.com/blog/2025/01/18/unique-identifie...>.

Re: Kill The Cookie Banner

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Post by pcollins123 »

I once interviewed for a senior product position at Google by a VP across many of their Web Products (including the Blink engine).

He asked me "So, how would you make the Internet better at Google?".

My response, "Setup preferences in Chrome to eliminate all popups including Cookie banners".

I never got a call back for the second interview.

Re: Kill The Cookie Banner

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Post by mcfedr »

djaro wrote: post #347
mcfedr wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if parents wont make the slightest bit of effort why should the rest of us pay to keep their children safe?

Because children shouldn't be the ones paying for the crime of having bad parents. Children should be safe regardless of what the parents do, because they're independent people and not property.

you can say that about a lot of things, but we do largely trust parents. but all these social media bans seem to stem from parents who claim to be helpless, when really they are lazy and the wider impact of these laws is massive. no technical way exists to do this without taking the privacy of everyone

Re: Kill The Cookie Banner

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Post by jchook »

voxic11 wrote: post #451
jchook wrote: post #373

The most frustrating thing about the cookie banner is that the solution was always obvious: just use the DNT setting on your browser (Do Not Track). It already existed. However, powerful interest groups like ad companies that profit from your attention (which hysterically virtually powers the Internet today) were able to stop it from happening. It was debated way back in 2009 when the GDPR was being developed. Iirc t…

Do Not Track cannot satisfy the GDPR, it requires that you obtain informed and specific consent so even if a user had the DNT bit set to consenting you would still need to show the banner.

Obvious move is to modify GDPR to not be so obtuse.

Re: Kill The Cookie Banner

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Post by TurdF3rguson »

dredmorbius wrote: post #461
TurdF3rguson wrote: post #429

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any other way to get that data? It's clearly about cookies but it's specifically about tracking cookies.

Supercookies: https://www.comparitech.com/identity-theft-protection/superc... > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/09/new-cookie-technologie... > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/verizon-x-uidh > Browser fingerprinting / Panopticlick: https://ssd.eff.org/module/what-fingerprinting > https://panopticlick.org/ > On-device identifiers --- Google AdID (GAID), Apple IDFA, etc.: https://developer.transmitsecurity.com/…

Sure but these are all the same thing as cookies.

And BYW, browser headers can even be a violation if it's determined that you are using them for tracking users in a way that violates ePrivacy demands.

It's still a cookies thing.

Re: Kill The Cookie Banner

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Post by srdjanr »

charcircuit wrote: post #447
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you don't need consent for that. It falls under the legitimate interest exception. You need to disclose it in your privacy policy, you need to delete it after a reasonable retention period and you can't use those logs for other purposes like ad targeting, but you don't need a consent banner to track things that you are legitimately using for security purposes.

>It falls under the legitimate interest exception. What makes that a legitimate interest and not advertising?

> and you can't use those logs for other purposes like ad targeting

This part I guess

Re: Kill The Cookie Banner

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Post by throwawayk7h »

tgv wrote: post #36
Phemist wrote: post #22

> Tired of misleading cookie banners? The EU Commission has finally proposed a solution: set your privacy preferences in the browser once, and never see another banner. So lawmakers do know how to make legally binding preferences based on device settings? What a crazy innovation.. now if only parents were given these options to indicate their child is using a device.. we could do away with all this Online Safety Act…

The problem there is that parent's won't know how to do it, or won't care. Many can hardly operate the most user-friendly phone, let alone manage accounts. The online safety acts and its EU counterparts are somewhat risky, but nobody wants the mention the only proper alternative: a total ban on "social media." Not just for kids, but for everyone. Or a ban on smart phones, that would work too, at least short term. But…

It should be by default, rather than relying on the parent proactively.

Re: Kill The Cookie Banner

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Post by alibarber »

* "This proposal for privacy signals is part of an EU law reform called the Digital Omnibus. Most other parts of this reform are problematic and would weaken people’s rights. We want to make clear that we do not support these other aspects of the proposed reform."

Oh.

Re: Kill The Cookie Banner

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Post by nottorp »

Even if it were automatic, there is no guarantee web sites will respect it.

Is there any reason for allowing this tracking browser side besides a little convenience for the web devs?

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