The most frustrating thing about the cookie banner is that the solution was always obvious: just use the DNT setting on your browser (Do Not Track). It already existed. However, powerful interest groups like ad companies that profit from your attention (which hysterically virtually powers the Internet today) were able to stop it from happening. It was debated way back in 2009 when the GDPR was being developed. Iirc t…
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#453Or you could just stop spying on people. No cookie banner is required for functionally necessary cookies.
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It depends on what is to be analyzed. How many requests per second are being served? How many error codes were delivered to clients? How quickly the service responded? Service logs without PII? All perfectly fine to aggregate and analyze without consent.
How long did it take x user to navigate from x screen to y screen is one of the most valuable metrics for any site, and most people consider this to require consent. Or at least it not being worth the risk to not ask. Acting dense like this isn't productive... And literally this information would be stores as anonymous user 12345, but that still would require consent (probably, or at least arguably).
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#455The answer is simple. Don't use tracking cookies.
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#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
One possibility you failed to enumerate was that you are wrong. But anyway. What exactly do you mean by “buried or obscured”? As I said above, if the parties cannot be said to have an agreement because the terms of the agreement itself are inscrutable, then that would probably result in no contract being formed, or the terms at issue interpreted in the light most favorable to the non-drafting party. Like if the terms…
A more concrete example may be useful to explain what I’m thinking. A company has you click to agree to their TOS. They link a doc, which is of course quite long. That doc has a footnote which links to another doc. You do not read the secondary doc, and it is the contents of that doc that allows the company to sell you data/prevent you from suing them/harvest your organs/abduct your family/whatever. My point is that…
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#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is indeed a rather good implementation of ehat GDPR requires: clear unambiguous language, an opt-out available immediately. This is the definition of informed consent
The GDPR doesn’t allow opt-out consent to count as consent. The only consent it recognizes as valid consent is opt-in. However, since we are discussing the banner that The Guardian website shows to US viewers, I assume they’re trying to comply with California privacy law, which does allow opt-out regarding the sale of personal information.
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GDPR says that opt-out is the default, and if you are asking for consent, it had to be clear, unambiguous, and with both chouces clearly present.
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> but it might also be "you can have this content for free". ads don't require invasve and pervasive tracking
Effective ads absolutely require knowing more about the user than the context on the page it's a 1-2 orders of magnitude revenue difference for the publisher per-impression.
That's what the tracking industry keeps telling you with zero evidence it's true.
And then there are studies like this one: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016781162 which say that targeted ads need to be 100% to 700% more effective to be as profitable as non-targeted ads