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French firefighters face 'pyrocumulonimbus' for first time

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Re: French firefighters face 'pyrocumulonimbus' for first time

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If you the are in the area and hesitating to evacuate, or if you want to realize what terrible phenomenon you are you facing. Watch this great documentary about the tragedy that unfolded in Portugal a few years ago. Leave now.

"Witness to Disaster | National Geographic" - https://youtu.be/clTeqIpGBeU

https://youtu.be/clTeqIpGBeU?t=1734

Re: French firefighters face 'pyrocumulonimbus' for first time

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People also stupidly watch soccer games such as World Cup, go on meaningless vacations, eat out when they can cook at home, argue nonsense on online forums such as HN. Sure those activities aren't "encouraging more consumerism and more CO2 output"?

Nobody tokenmaxxes because they like it, so it doesn't even produce joy. Besides, your argument is that something being wasteful is a simple binary, so we cannot make a value judgement without being the grinch.

Re: French firefighters face 'pyrocumulonimbus' for first time

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That's remember me of https://www.france24.com/en/20190824-macron-france-brazil-bo...

Unsurprisingly, that was just propaganda from some rich locals protecting their market power. What was really surprising was the number of people around here asking some army to come murder Brazilians.

But then, it's real that Bolsonaro was criminally negligent on fire-avoidance. What we will discover next year is how much of it could be avoided at all.

Re: French firefighters face 'pyrocumulonimbus' for first time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Giving money to corpos" is basically living in society where the work is shared so that somebody e.g. good at repairing a water leak can concentrate on that and do the job for others, etc. Or you mean "big corpos"? Why does the size matter? Or do you mean that those are unethical corporations? So let's focus on preventing them from doing unethical things them. In any case, we are living in society, so it is better t…

Communities helping each other and huge sums of capital operating autonomously in the benefit of an extremely few number of majority shareholders (yes the same few thousand people own most of the major equity is the top corporations) are hardly comparable. co-ops and small businesses trying to navigate the legalese of modernity and "make it" though all are responsible in proportion to the degree that they maximize mo…

I'm still hopeful. And for that I am being much more active promoting ecological thinking.

And of course fighting against the idiotic far-right propaganda, largely responsible for the climate inaction.

Which by the way in the US has recently passed the stage of "inaction" to enter the realm of actively destroying the planet.

Re: French firefighters face 'pyrocumulonimbus' for first time

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Also I can understand fires in gigantic forests in Canada or mountainous area are almost impossible to prevent but just looking at the Gironde/Bordeaux area on Google Maps it just looks like an absolute failure by the state.

And this is not an earthquake, it happens every years at the same time.

It is too easy to blame climate change.

Re: French firefighters face 'pyrocumulonimbus' for first time

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So, if you used climate credits, to build up those forrests. Do they get nil and void, if those forrests burn up?

They should go negative because the gigantic amount of CO2 being released right now because of the obvious incompetence of the authorites is criminal.

Re: French firefighters face 'pyrocumulonimbus' for first time

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Also I can understand fires in gigantic forests in Canada or mountainous area are almost impossible to prevent but just looking at the Gironde/Bordeaux area on Google Maps it just looks like an absolute failure by the state. And this is not an earthquake, it happens every years at the same time. It is too easy to blame climate change.

They repeatedly underspent on hardware (bought 2 canadairs instead of 4 to replace aging ones), people (last time the firemen protested for a higher budget, they were tear gassed by the police), forest management (cut off the budget of the forest management agency), enforcement (private forest owners have to introduce fire cut lines into their parcels, which they didn't do. Forest management agency has nobody to spare to go verify that they did, and even when that happens, it takes years to be judged, or the government drops the case), ecology as a whole, and the list goes on.

But don't worry, it's not just about fires. The same can be said about pretty much everything they've done.

Re: French firefighters face 'pyrocumulonimbus' for first time

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The situation in Bordeaux right now feels close to apocalyptic. I left yesterday. Two hundred thousand people are evacuated, hundreds of homes destroyed, and the fire about 10 miles from the edge of the city.

It impacted the north of Bordeaux too. from Thursday to saturday, a lot of small fields/forest in Charente/Charente maritime started to catch fire because of the embers. The smoke was also so dense it completly modified the local climate and fucked up the wind prevision (i know because i was suppose to wingfoil all afternoon saturday and we had no wind until like 18-19), also dropping the temperature 2-3C (150km away).

Good luck, and stay safe.

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