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Re: Show HN: CheapSecurity – Lightweight, Self-Hosted CCTV for Linux SBCs

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Post by atmosx »

mattlondon wrote: post #7

How does this handle motion detection? Anyone tried it? I have a bunch of Nest cameras and some cheaper Tapo cameras. The "motion detection" is night and day different. The Tapo does some basic frame-diffing and it's awful . Shadows? DING DING DiNG MOTION DETECTED! gust of wind made some blades of grass move? Motion! Spider? Motion motion motion! Turn down the sensitivity a notch or two and it won't notice a human wa…

Seriously… how hard is it to setup an RPi with a camera and offload the detection to some open source software? Last time I checked there projects performing animal, face and even license plates reckon, extraction and db recording of “who”, “when”, “what” using cheap cameras and an RPi.

Re: Show HN: CheapSecurity – Lightweight, Self-Hosted CCTV for Linux SBCs

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Post by Fabricio20 »

atmosx wrote: post #11
mattlondon wrote: post #7

How does this handle motion detection? Anyone tried it? I have a bunch of Nest cameras and some cheaper Tapo cameras. The "motion detection" is night and day different. The Tapo does some basic frame-diffing and it's awful . Shadows? DING DING DiNG MOTION DETECTED! gust of wind made some blades of grass move? Motion! Spider? Motion motion motion! Turn down the sensitivity a notch or two and it won't notice a human wa…

Seriously… how hard is it to setup an RPi with a camera and offload the detection to some open source software? Last time I checked there projects performing animal, face and even license plates reckon, extraction and db recording of “who”, “when”, “what” using cheap cameras and an RPi.

It's actually pretty darn easy nowadays and i'm so glad its the case! Frigate is amazing and the detection package is of your choosing (hardware dependant) and everything is customizable too.

Re: Show HN: CheapSecurity – Lightweight, Self-Hosted CCTV for Linux SBCs

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Post by wolvoleo »

mattlondon wrote: post #7

How does this handle motion detection? Anyone tried it? I have a bunch of Nest cameras and some cheaper Tapo cameras. The "motion detection" is night and day different. The Tapo does some basic frame-diffing and it's awful . Shadows? DING DING DiNG MOTION DETECTED! gust of wind made some blades of grass move? Motion! Spider? Motion motion motion! Turn down the sensitivity a notch or two and it won't notice a human wa…

The tapo cameras do this on cam. They can even report it to the NVR system, completely local with ONVIF.

Nest does it in the cloud. Obviously it's more capable but it also means Google grabs all your video: https://support.google.com/googlehome/answer/16594324?hl=en#...

Re: Show HN: CheapSecurity – Lightweight, Self-Hosted CCTV for Linux SBCs

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Post by wolvoleo »

Fabricio20 wrote: post #13
atmosx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously… how hard is it to setup an RPi with a camera and offload the detection to some open source software? Last time I checked there projects performing animal, face and even license plates reckon, extraction and db recording of “who”, “when”, “what” using cheap cameras and an RPi.

It's actually pretty darn easy nowadays and i'm so glad its the case! Frigate is amazing and the detection package is of your choosing (hardware dependant) and everything is customizable too.

Frigate is pretty cool if you need motion detection. If you don't it's a bit wasteful because it still keeps the whole decoding pipeline active. I've switched to LightNVR that doesn't do that. I have enough alarm sensors (motion and door entry) so I don't need motion on the cams as well. I just record 24/7 for evidence keeping.

Re: Show HN: CheapSecurity – Lightweight, Self-Hosted CCTV for Linux SBCs

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Post by fy20 »

ranger_danger wrote: post #3
ibejoeb wrote: post #2

Anyone have camera suggestions? I've got 2 spare raspi 5s that would probably be a good base.

In my experience, budget USB cameras are not reliable as a long-term solution because they randomly stop working in different ways after days of use and must be power-cycled. Instead I would suggest either a direct CSI connection or an external GigE camera.

I'd just bite the bullet and get proper security cameras. I got a few 4K something or other from Ankke (rebranded HikVision) 5 years ago and they still work fine. They were about €100 each.

Re: Show HN: CheapSecurity – Lightweight, Self-Hosted CCTV for Linux SBCs

#19

Post by ranger_danger »

fy20 wrote: post #18
ranger_danger wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience, budget USB cameras are not reliable as a long-term solution because they randomly stop working in different ways after days of use and must be power-cycled. Instead I would suggest either a direct CSI connection or an external GigE camera.

I'd just bite the bullet and get proper security cameras. I got a few 4K something or other from Ankke (rebranded HikVision) 5 years ago and they still work fine. They were about €100 each.

For those that don't know, Hikvision is banned in several countries now due to both cybersecurity reasons and human rights violations: https://ipvm.com/reports/hikua-bans

I have also tried many other IP camera brands over the years, but it seems none of them have figured out how to output fully compliant RTP/RTMP/etc. streams so I end up always having strange and random problems receiving fluid streams from them into a central server.

Coupled with the fact that many brands are just using the same recycled white-label Chinese firmware, I'm not surprised.

Would love better recommendations though if any exist.

Re: Show HN: CheapSecurity – Lightweight, Self-Hosted CCTV for Linux SBCs

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Post by koko3tallah »

mattlondon wrote: post #7

How does this handle motion detection? Anyone tried it? I have a bunch of Nest cameras and some cheaper Tapo cameras. The "motion detection" is night and day different. The Tapo does some basic frame-diffing and it's awful . Shadows? DING DING DiNG MOTION DETECTED! gust of wind made some blades of grass move? Motion! Spider? Motion motion motion! Turn down the sensitivity a notch or two and it won't notice a human wa…

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