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Post by jay_kyburz »

windexh8er wrote: post #61
inigyou wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DC water consumption is a red herring. That water is returned back to its source but warmer.

If you think that every data center is now a closed loop system enjoy your propaganda. Colossus 1 and 2 still use open loop systems. And with the case of blow down water that's "returned" it's not usable due to the use of concentrated salts (1,200 to 6,000 mg/L). In your mind this is a closed loop system of clean water. It is not. And as DCs have less and less discharge there is more and more solid waste produced. Yo…

Yes, but they _could_ be a closed loop system if governments demanded it. And they should.

The could, and should generate their own electricity as well. And perhaps even provide free power to the surrounding neighborhood to make up for the noise and inconvenience of having one nearby.

Re: The Strongest El Niño Ever

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Post by logtempo »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #98
jonwinstanley wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, we can see it coming, but we are doing very little about

We are doing a lot. Almost 90% of electricity capacity added last year was renewables. Nearly 1 in 3 cars sold are now EVs. The world is spending over $2 trillion every year on low‑carbon energy investment. Solar and wind have already avoided more than 2 gigatons of C02 being added to the atmosphere. In the US, the IRA will drop emissions 40% to below 2005 levels. What do you mean we are doing very little?

It should be at the level od the economy of war but worldwide. The majority reacted too late to have the possibility to act slowly.

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Post by sdeframond »

sajithdilshan wrote: post #107

We all know we’re way past the time where we need to cut the carbon emissions, like it was 30 years ago. Why aren’t the governments investing money on research on carbon capture technology? That’s the only way left to undo massive carbon emissions due to industrialisation

"Wait, do you mean I should pay to capture the carbon my neighbors emits? No way!"

That's why.

Edit: Also, as some other comment said, thermodynamics tell us that it would take an inordinate amount of energy to bring carbon back to safe levels. More than what we get from burning oil. It's about entropy and all that. So there's that.

Re: The Strongest El Niño Ever

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Post by simmerup »

zuzululu wrote: post #19
inigyou wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

all of it and because we've been doomed since the 70s

but if you keep declaring a time clock every decade only to reset it for the past 50 years, does it not weaken the point of it ? we should've had an apocalypse by now, we haven't and unlikely to so for quite some time. why are we so eager and unquestioning of the published narratives going to the length of censoring counter theories?

Like an alcoholic saying drinking isn’t bad because he’s been drinking since his twenties and still hasn’t got cirrhosis

By the time it’s an issue it’s too late.

Re: The Strongest El Niño Ever

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Post by froggy »

windexh8er wrote: post #61
inigyou wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DC water consumption is a red herring. That water is returned back to its source but warmer.

If you think that every data center is now a closed loop system enjoy your propaganda. Colossus 1 and 2 still use open loop systems. And with the case of blow down water that's "returned" it's not usable due to the use of concentrated salts (1,200 to 6,000 mg/L). In your mind this is a closed loop system of clean water. It is not. And as DCs have less and less discharge there is more and more solid waste produced. Yo…

Very interesting how your enlightening comments about dirty AI data centers are being downvoted. Pro-Musk, pro-AI bots and shills trying to keep the smoke screen going?

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Post by buybackoff »

ceroxylon wrote: post #71
buybackoff wrote: post #21

I've seen dozens of videos and articles about this strongest ever event. And I still have no clue if the next year I should evacuate from Paris for the summer because heatwaves may be even crazier than this year, or prolonged heavy rains are more likely and can make the city more livable.

No offense, but using air travel to avoid climate impacts is a bit ironic and part of the reason we’re in this mess. No need to fix the root cause, I’ll just fly somewhere cold during the summer /s

It's funny that I said "evacuate" and did not mention air travel. In that part of the world, trains are the default, with nuclear green power powering the majority of consumers. Maybe that other default is a problem. And yes, bien sûr, an abandoned personal flight or train will counter balance China, India or mega leaks of methane in US. And all AC owners must be incarcerated, it's so worse than a car. A new leftist mayor of Paris even said ACs warm up neighbors' places, should be forbidden obviously...

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Post by carlosjobim »

sdeframond wrote: post #99
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #4

The buried lede: What does all this mean for global temperatures? Because global temperature lags ENSO by around three to five months, most of this event’s warming will land in 2027, which is now shaping up to be a genuinely alarming year and the warmest on record by a sizable margin I’m certainly no climate scientist, but if I lived in Europe, I would absolutely be looking into how to get a solar energy system set u…

> I would absolutely be looking into how to get [...] at least one window air-conditioning unit if not a heat pump before next summer Before you do that, do the cost effective thing: shadow and wind. Then you can add an aircon iff thats not enough. For shadow, reftrofitting adjustable sunshade is pretty effective. Sunlight brings about 1kw per square meter of window. That like having your heater at full power when it…

Uncomfortable heat has nothing to do with temperature and everything to do with air humidity. Only an AC can lower the humidity, by conditioning the air.

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Post by polotics »

simianwords wrote: post #69
croes wrote: post #31

Another thing AI makes worse because of all the energy consumption. I hope we have something more to show than dozens of to-do apps when our children and grandchildren ask which important things made the massive use of AI necessary.

Even if we don't do anything about emissions and climate change picks up, lives in 2126 will be unmistakably better than ours in all dimensions that matter.

can you show us the world model that predicts this outcome? which variables does it take into account?
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