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Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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Presumably Starlink for routing throughout space. Google does under-sea cables and domestic internet access too.

Having your exponentially more expensive fleet of satellites constantly burning up versus dedicated cables that rarely need replacing

The big use-case for Starlink is typically for people in locations without dedicated cables.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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> Tesla is making two big R&D plays… The funniest thing you can write… Can’t believe people still write “Robotaxi” after 12+ years of failed promises… wild wild stuff

Waymo currently operates 250,000 paid robotaxi rides a week across several U.S. cities, and the robotaxi market is projected to grow at a yearly rate of ~70% from 2025 to 2030.

exactly, and Tesla cannot move a car from point A to point B since 2014 so this projected growth certainly is great news for a lot of companies - Tesla is not one of them

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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Investors are buying into the fallacy that musk can continue to work as a hype man, rather than some visionary or innovator. They like that he can make stock numbers go up, seemingly against all odds and reason. Whether this trend continues or not indefinitely will largely determine if incestors start looking for the door.

It's a valid point. But the markets are a harsh mistress. If you don't like fallacies, you don't buy. And if you think the number is not going to go up, you can always short the stock. In defence of Mr Musk, despite his character flaws, Tesla is the only Western electric car company in the top 20, and this includes Korea and Japan. Also, SpaceX is ~90% of the world's commercial rocket launch capacity. But this does n…

> In defence of Mr Musk, despite his character flaws, Tesla is the only Western electric car company in the top 20, and this includes Korea and Japan. Also, SpaceX is ~90% of the world's commercial rocket launch capacity.

This conflates the quality of the product with the value of the business. There is no contradiction between Tesla cars selling well because they fit a market and Tesla the business not being a good investment.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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Remember this was also when SpaceX was actually about space, instead of mostly AI and Twitter. Long-term shareholders that were sold on the space, have to be thinking about how to get out once their lockups expire.

Not just that, but private investors were sold shares that all had the same voting rights. Since just before the IPO SpaceX now has dual class shares, Elon and a few insiders have class-B shares with 10x the voting power, while everybody else (including private investors) have class-A shares with 1x the voting power

Putting the principal idea of “publicly owned” in its head.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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I am short both Google and SpaceX RN; SpaceX's IPO smells foul. Google is an AI-bubble short; Anthropic and OpenAI haven't IPOed yet.

SpaceX near $100/share is a great long position now, IMO.

Why $100? Why not $80 or $5 or $134?

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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I don't think companies expanding their business should be the only reason to sell. Apple was a desktop and laptop computer company when they released the iPod. Nokia was a company making rubber products when they started making cellular equipment in the 1970s. Amazon was a ecomm company when they released AWS. Etc. Sure, I'm cherrypicking the success stories but I don't think it's the only signal people should use.

I wouldn't really say SpaceX expanded its business. It was merged with a social network and AI firm to juice its IPO valuation. The SpaceX part of the business is interesting, but the value is generously only about 20% of the value of the company. Anyone who wants to invest in AI isn't going to want a near last place model company. And who wants to put money into Twitter?

I don't think what place you're in matters anymore when a small lab like Moonshot can come in and take the top spot out of nowhere.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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Google also has around a 14% stake in Anthropic (as at 2025 [1]) and they participated in the "G" funding round [2]. Amazon has a significant stake in them too.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/technology/google-investm... , https://archive.md/f0BxC

[2] https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-raises-30-billion-s...

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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> Tesla is making two big R&D plays… The funniest thing you can write… Can’t believe people still write “Robotaxi” after 12+ years of failed promises… wild wild stuff

Waymo currently operates 250,000 paid robotaxi rides a week across several U.S. cities, and the robotaxi market is projected to grow at a yearly rate of ~70% from 2025 to 2030.

Exactly. Tesla is way behind the competition.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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Time will tell but that feels foolish. MSFT is a terrible product company (look at copilot) but what they sell is a safe decision which is one of the most important factors for enterprise software. Nobody is close to replacing that.

I'm content for that be the narrative. Nobody is close, and what's more it's not even possible, and even if it was possible nobody would want it, and even if anyone did want it would only be a few people. ; )

You missed the plot. ; )
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