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The Strongest El Niño Ever

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Re: The Strongest El Niño Ever

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Another thing AI makes worse because of all the energy consumption.

I hope we have something more to show than dozens of to-do apps when our children and grandchildren ask which important things made the massive use of AI necessary.

Re: The Strongest El Niño Ever

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Well, we can see it coming, but we are doing very little about

We've been seeing our own certain destruction from climate change coming since the 70s. The 1870s. We had two entire lifetimes to do something about it, we didn't. Except those guys throwing soup at the fossil fuel HQs. They did a little.

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Re: The Strongest El Niño Ever

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We haven't had any significant flooding in past El Niños. Of course, it will probably be different this round, but at least El Niños tend to align with Mediterranean weather instead of droughts and wildfires. We also have one of the more advanced waterwork system in the US to support Central Valley agriculture, so a lot of the worst aspects can be somewhat managed. It's bad that such dramatic climate change is happen…

The costliest floods in state history were in the winter 1994-1995 which was a weak El Niño year.

True, but a lot of that was due to a lack of integrated water management (IWM) in California at the time, and led to significant reforms as well as infra expansion to prevent that from happening again.

The Lima Prieta Quake and the 1990s floods led to a lot of future proofing in Californian infra. The last major thing left is transmission weathering, which PGE and Sac are fighting over.

Also, most of our infra is state funded which gives us a lot of leeway.

Like I said before, it's bad that we're in this position and it's only going to get worse, but we're in one of the better places that can survive these kinds of shifts.

Re: The Strongest El Niño Ever

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You don't seem to understand how this works. El Niño is one half of a 2 part cycle. You don’t get permanent hurricane reduction.

If/when the temperature differential between equator and pole decreases because of a warming arctic, we actually do get a permanent reduction in hurricane propensity and destructiveness.

Not everything gets worse if the planet heats up a little more.

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And by a sizable margin they mean maybe 4 degrees Celsius. Remember that 1.5 degrees Celsius is a nearly end-of-the-world scenario and we're currently about 1.1 degrees. All that warming that we caused but didn't actually happen? Turns out the ocean saves it up.

> Remember that 1.5 degrees Celsius is a nearly end-of-the-world scenario No, it's not end of the world. 3C is where things start getting bad. 1.5C is the target for the 2015 Paris climate agreement to try and avoid hitting 2C. We are looking at more severe droughts, flash floods, and rising oceans where we are at, but not the worst of it like mass 40C wet bulb heat domes which wipe out all life underneath them.

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Re: The Strongest El Niño Ever

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If you give any regularly-occurring event that varies in intensity enough time, it is guaranteed to break the records of its previous intensities.

Yeah like earthquakes, the top registered earthquake happened 66 years ago.

The fact that you see record breaking more often than log of time implies a drift in one direction.

Re: The Strongest El Niño Ever

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I've seen dozens of videos and articles about this strongest ever event. And I still have no clue if the next year I should evacuate from Paris for the summer because heatwaves may be even crazier than this year, or prolonged heavy rains are more likely and can make the city more livable.

Given what I learned from "chaos" by James Gleick, the predicament we're in is that we likely cannot predict outcomes or the events themselves, rather what we know is that weather will become more unpredictable and more extreme.

So the answer to your question is it could be either or both or neither. Whatever happens is going to be on average more extreme than what you're used to.

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