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Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by jfengel »

Llamamoe wrote: post #117
themgt wrote: post #90

It's not World War 3. It's just two increasingly overlapping unsolvable wars involving two increasingly coherent geopolitical blocs consisting of dozens of countries spanning three continents, most major nuclear powers holding 95% of global nuclear stockpiles and the vast majority of global military spending and resources, with nuclear-capable cruise, ballistic, and hypersonic missiles flying back and forth, attacks…

Are there enough nations on Russia's side to call them a bloc? It seems like almost everyone is supporting Ukraine.

India and China are both supporting Russia in various overt and covert ways. That's a huge fraction of the world.

Iran is even more closely linked. Arguably the real reason for the American attack on Iran is to reduce their contribution to the Ukraine conflict.

Plus Russia's various Toadies (which included Hungary, an EU nation, until recently)... It's a pretty sizeable bloc.

It's not yet an all out Axis and Allies situation, but it's definitely not just Russia against the world.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by FpUser »

miohtama wrote: post #15

Because Russian's war with Ukraine is unsustainable, something has to change for Putin for him to remain in power, and one option is an escalation with NATO. Some other scenarios also explained in this good video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jDhYFSGkaAc

>"something has to change for Putin for him to remain in power, and one option is an escalation with NATO"

I think us couch experts including author of that particular video have no fucking clue what he will do and what the true state of affairs is. Had all those expert prediction materialized Russia would've already disintegrated 10 times and Putin would've lost power in a first months.

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by bell-cot »

sneak wrote: post #143
cbg0 wrote: post #38

As part of the SAFE EU financial instrument Romania is spending a lot of cash on defense measures for drones and other armament[1]. Currently still relying heavily on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flakpanzer_Gepard for anti-air as well as fighter jets with air-to-air missiles, as these recent drones were all brought down by F-16s. Aside from strategic targets, a lot of the civilian infrastructure is quite vulnerable…

F-16s with human pilots and a2a missiles vs cheap drones? That’s one hell of an asymmetry and doesn’t seem robust enough to handle 100x the scale.

Yeah, obviously F-16's & humans scale very poorly for this. However:

- At one-a-day scale, political and risk considerations probably favor the expensive solution.

- Using F-16's reveals nothing about your current anti-drone defenses. (Yeah, it's also a real-world basic competence test for your air force - for better and for worse.)

- If your intel people want more data on the drones, an F-16 can haul a whole lotta intel-gathering equipment to the show.

- If you're dealing internally with some head-in-the-sand traditionalists dragging their heels on updating your doctrine/equipment/training to deal with drones, then "real world, right now" examples are probably useful.

(BTW - do the articles say "a2a missile" anywhere? F-16's typically mount a 20mm cannon, a cheap drone is not a hard target, and cannon rounds are dirt cheap by compare.)

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by sunaookami »

yls wrote: post #68
sunaookami wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just keep in mind that's literally owned by the French government.

I think it is not owned by the government, rather by the state. In a democracy, how is this a bad thing?

>Since 2008 the channel has been wholly owned by the French government

Explain to me why reading news from the state is a good thing? Kinda shocked that people here applaud state-owned media (there is no difference between "government-owned" or "state-owned").

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by renox »

ekianjo wrote: post #105
jubilanti wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice to see a France24 link in the wild, it is a very underrated news outlet

Yeah a solid propaganda arm of the French government

Not the only one though: I remember what happened when we 'invaded' Lybia: not one criticism in the French news anywhere, total censorship, even though our media had widely and correctly criticised the US for the Irak war..

So I think the best thing is to get news from everywhere Russia, China, the US, Europe, but that's a lot of work..

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by rjzzleep »

alephnerd wrote: post #160
cbg0 wrote: post #38

As part of the SAFE EU financial instrument Romania is spending a lot of cash on defense measures for drones and other armament[1]. Currently still relying heavily on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flakpanzer_Gepard for anti-air as well as fighter jets with air-to-air missiles, as these recent drones were all brought down by F-16s. Aside from strategic targets, a lot of the civilian infrastructure is quite vulnerable…

> Romania is spending a lot of cash on defense measures for drones and other armament Some of this is going to be stalled - Romania was planning on deploying the Iron Dome [0] and Spyder [1] for AD which was going to be co-produced by Volkswagen in their German factories that were on the chopping block, but Qatar (Volkswagen's largest minority shareholder with 17% voting share) blocked that deal [2]. [0] - https://ww…

Iron Dome is designed for protecting from home made rockets made with dung from the Gaza Strip. And according to research the main reason for the low casualty rate is actually the early warning. How exactly is it supposed to help with real missiles and drones?

How do these scams keep happening? Why doesn't anyone care how their taxpayer money is spent?

Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by iwontberude »

rjzzleep wrote: post #167
alephnerd wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Romania is spending a lot of cash on defense measures for drones and other armament Some of this is going to be stalled - Romania was planning on deploying the Iron Dome [0] and Spyder [1] for AD which was going to be co-produced by Volkswagen in their German factories that were on the chopping block, but Qatar (Volkswagen's largest minority shareholder with 17% voting share) blocked that deal [2]. [0] - https://ww…

Iron Dome is designed for protecting from home made rockets made with dung from the Gaza Strip. And according to research the main reason for the low casualty rate is actually the early warning. How exactly is it supposed to help with real missiles and drones? How do these scams keep happening? Why doesn't anyone care how their taxpayer money is spent?

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Re: Third Drone Shot Down in Three Days in Romanian Territory

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Post by andriy_koval »

xedrac wrote: post #25
fc417fc802 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't we already have that? It's just a smoulder instead of a conflagration.

Do you feel threatened that Russia and Iran will succeed in conquering all of Europe and the Middle East? I see it more like a couple of misbehaving misfits. That's very different than say, WWII.

> Do you feel threatened that Russia and Iran will succeed in conquering all of Europe and the Middle East?

Iran has a strong stance to significantly increase influence in the Middle East if not restrained: they have many way (not just Hormuz) to project power on oil countries, and essentially force them to switch sides.

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