Singapore have done something similar.
https://preview.redd.it/there-is-an-eco-bridge-in-singapore-...
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#112Just wanna say, Monga Bay is an incredible publication that doesn't get enough attention. As someone who follows a lot of environmental news, they routinely cover important topics and do original journalism on stories I hear nowhere else. Their YouTube channel is full of extremely high quality videos that often get less than 2k views. I would highly recommend checking them out https://www.youtube.com/@MongabayTV/vide…
How do they tend to clock in on the doomer scale? I'm trying to find alternatives to the regular news that don't feed my doomerism.
On YouTube there is a channel called Good News (@Good_News) that has a monthly show highlighting positive environmental stories.
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#113This is the kind of stuff Republicans in the US hate. "big government wasting their money on a bunch of critters" I'm pretty left. The one thing I will never understand is how the right does not care about nature. Just insane to me.
Yes, you would think 'conservatives' would be big on conserving "god's creation", but no. Apparently having 'dominion' over nature means killing it, not looking after it. Also, the disconnect between Jesus's politics and what the Christian Right practices is pretty jarring.
You two have put multiple constituencies in a small box so you can beat more people with a single stick. Even just in America, the only overlap between fundies, incels, and technolibertarians is the "R" they tick. Likewise, on the left, there's not much in common between labour activists and eco-hippies.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not at all true, plenty of herbivores out there that doesn't care for humans as nutrition. Plenty of cultures out there living side by side with earth without subjugating it, and it still hasn't killed those people.
Most omnivores and carnivores won't touch humans with a ten foot pole either. But that's because they're either too smart to try or we have altered their genetic makeup by culling anyone who strayed too close.
For better or worse, not that many people meet hungry carnivores vs "I could go without human for now" carnivores. They're generally kind of risk averse until hunger strikes, then any existing reason/logic (since you claimed "too smart") goes out the window.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://transitcosts.com/transit-costs-study-final-report/ Wow look New York is expensive too! It’s almost like it’s the entire country and there are other reasons besides grift.
Ah yes, let's ignore that California has spent ~$15B on high speed rail and has literally nothing to show for it... I guess that just makes sense to some people... To me, I can't accept it when I see other countries rapidly doing these infrastructure projects at a fraction of the cost and multiple times faster. Compare our costs to Switzerland or any other high income developed first world country--we're off the char…
> It makes no sense other than lobbyists and environment lawyers and other ticky-tack bullshit
Those other countries also have lobbyists and environment lawyers, so your thesis reveals a lack of discernment.
The poster child in the west for infrastructure projects is Spain, and i can assure you that Spain is not light on regulation.
America has an interesting political structure - look there for your answer.
Ultimately, a democracy with a strong concept of individual rights will inevitably surface nimbies. America's fractal disorganisation gives them multiple venues to oppose any project. America's love-hate relationship with federal bodies creates overlaps. America's semi-regular cycle into small-government administration means it regularly expunges institutional infrastructure experience. You could shoot every environmental lawyer and lobbyist, and your projects would still be bunfights.
> that helps no one
You're welcome to your own values. I believe there's a place called "Flint Michigan" where the citizens would disagree.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
> so it altered the environment The motorway was not a natural occurrence, and neither cars or trucks evolved naturally. Humans went there and installed a limited fix for the destruction they caused in the first place.
Are volcanos natural occurrences? Meteors? Earthquakes floods and fires? Are humans natural? It's a pointless distinction, "nature" is plenty fully of destruction and extinction without humans ever being involved.
I’m sure the current mass extinction, which seems to have started at the same time a climate change, which itself started more or less when we learned how to dump unprecedented amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere are causally related.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah yes, let's ignore that California has spent ~$15B on high speed rail and has literally nothing to show for it... I guess that just makes sense to some people... To me, I can't accept it when I see other countries rapidly doing these infrastructure projects at a fraction of the cost and multiple times faster. Compare our costs to Switzerland or any other high income developed first world country--we're off the char…
> It makes no sense other than lobbyists and environment lawyers and other ticky-tack bullshit Those other countries also have lobbyists and environment lawyers, so your thesis reveals a lack of discernment. The poster child in the west for infrastructure projects is Spain, and i can assure you that Spain is not light on regulation. America has an interesting political structure - look there for your answer. Ultimate…
>so your thesis reveals a lack of discernment.
You're really quick to just get angry mad and throw out insults over me saying something as benign as 'wow it'd be nice if California used our tax money as effectively as the example in the article?' Just seems like a bizarre totally mundane thing to get hung up on and then have this nauseating Karen-like condescending tone 'actually... the costs are totally justified, it's fine that California spends 7-10x what every other developed country does--it just makes sense'. You reek of assigned opinion and just conformist talking points from Newsom.
I've lived in California for 40 years and every year the government becomes less effective and more tax money is embezzled and fleeced and squandered. I don't know how someone could travel to Europe or Japan and then come back to California and defend the state of our infrastructure and not be wholly embarrassed. Our schools, roads, bridges, everything that matters are decades behind (despite a sufficiently large tax base to fund those same projects).
We could be doing better, but simps like you just keep giving the one party system a free pass so there've never any accountability whatsoever. Good job, let's just keep lowering our expectations and shrugging this magnitude of incompetence off.
> I believe there's a place called "Flint Michigan" where the citizens would disagree.
How do you think Flint reinforces your argument? If anything it is evidence of exactly what I'm talking about---government bureaucrats making unaccountable decisions that then devastate and rip off the local constituents. They never fixed the Flint crisis... even Obama and Biden did nothing.
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#118We just had our first bear crossing on a wildlife here in the Northwest. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/first-black-bear-u... I know these things are more complicated than they seem at first, but whenever these stories surface, I immediately go to an idealistic childhood cartoon land where we have a prime directive that tells us to go forth(!) and watch out for each other!
I always wonder how the world would look if the bible had said "Respect the earth and all living beings" instead of “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion…"
As another sibling points out, creation before the fall, so.the animals and humans in the garden of eden, were vegan.
There is also a theory that Jesus was vegan and a belief that Christians should be too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism#Biblic...
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always wonder how the world would look if the bible had said "Respect the earth and all living beings" instead of “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion…"
As another sibling points out, creation before the fall, so.the animals and humans in the garden of eden, were vegan. There is also a theory that Jesus was vegan and a belief that Christians should be too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism#Biblic...
I was introduced to this idea by the excellent documentary https://christspiracy.com/
Video is an interesting format but I'm glad you shared that page, text is more appropriate to dive into a subject.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
As another sibling points out, creation before the fall, so.the animals and humans in the garden of eden, were vegan. There is also a theory that Jesus was vegan and a belief that Christians should be too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism#Biblic...
I was introduced to this idea by the excellent documentary https://christspiracy.com/ Video is an interesting format but I'm glad you shared that page, text is more appropriate to dive into a subject.
> Is there a spiritual way to kill an animal? How would Jesus kill an animal?
Amazing question. I'm not spiritual, but regularly debate this topic with others (including here): this will be a useful way of approaching it. Thanks for posting the link!