Systemd Linger
etbe.coker.com.au
Systemd Linger
1–10 of 96 posts
Re: Systemd Linger
#2This is why i dislike systemd. Things not working the way I expect means I have to do more work to figure something out.
Re: Systemd Linger
#3This is why i dislike systemd. Things not working the way I expect means I have to do more work to figure something out.
In my experience, systemd is much better documented, way more consistent, and way more reliable than what came before.
Re: Systemd Linger
#4This is why i dislike systemd. Things not working the way I expect means I have to do more work to figure something out.
The fault lies in the distribution for it's default configuration, not systemd.
The article even mentions that distros ship with it turned off
Re: Systemd Linger
#5This is why i dislike systemd. Things not working the way I expect means I have to do more work to figure something out.
In my experience, systemd is much better documented, way more consistent, and way more reliable than what came before.
I guess it depends on your source of info but I've found what came before was pretty comprehensively & accessibly documented, at least as well as systemd, which - while well documented - suffers from sprawl & overwhelm of the docs. There's just SO MUCH to grok in comparison.
Re: Systemd Linger
#6This is why i dislike systemd. Things not working the way I expect means I have to do more work to figure something out.
In my experience, systemd is much better documented, way more consistent, and way more reliable than what came before.
Maybe, but the scale of systemd features is humongous. It better be well documented. You don't need a user manual for hammer, you do need one for hydraulic press.
Re: Systemd Linger
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience, systemd is much better documented, way more consistent, and way more reliable than what came before.
Maybe, but the scale of systemd features is humongous. It better be well documented. You don't need a user manual for hammer, you do need one for hydraulic press.
> hydraulic press
What is there to know? It goes up and down, and don't stick your arm inside...
Re: Systemd Linger
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience, systemd is much better documented, way more consistent, and way more reliable than what came before.
I guess it depends on your source of info but I've found what came before was pretty comprehensively & accessibly documented, at least as well as systemd, which - while well documented - suffers from sprawl & overwhelm of the docs. There's just SO MUCH to grok in comparison.
Absolutely not the case. Even relatively simple real world uses involved collections of shell scripts to carefully mount or initialize services in just the right order and would often fail with weird and infrequent timing glitches. With systemd that all becomes explicit, so of course it is awkwardly verbose. That is the whole point and a huge upgrade.
Re: Systemd Linger
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience, systemd is much better documented, way more consistent, and way more reliable than what came before.
I guess it depends on your source of info but I've found what came before was pretty comprehensively & accessibly documented, at least as well as systemd, which - while well documented - suffers from sprawl & overwhelm of the docs. There's just SO MUCH to grok in comparison.
I never found systemd difficult, but I do find prior solutions to be simpler. An init script is easy, and the order is also easy. If people are accustomed to UNIX systems, the sysvinit is better. For people who never experienced those systems, systemd is their friend. No need to use UNIX tools when Systemd ships with batteries included.
Re: Systemd Linger
#10This is why i dislike systemd. Things not working the way I expect means I have to do more work to figure something out.
"The way you expect" is probably inconsistent and, upon closer inspection, completely broken.
There is a reason why systemd became the default and other niche init systems have faded into obscurity.
Sure, it may be more complex than your pile of shell scripts, but that's because it does the same things better, and has a lot more functionality that you will need at some point, and good luck replicating that by hacking shell scripts.