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Turn And Face The Strange

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Re: Turn And Face The Strange

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Post by tptacek »

satvikpendem wrote: post #28
simonw wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I think that post from June 2025 has aged pretty well. The Coding Agent revolution hadn't really happened at that point (Claude Code was only ~4 months old) so the paraphrased message "this stuff is actually useful for programming, saying it's all just stochastic parrots misses the mark" was still non-obvious to a whole lot of people. Honestly, the biggest problem with that article was the title. People read as…

Indeed, it's not worth engaging with AI skeptics anymore today, it's just a waste of time. If they don't see the value then they probably never will, and that's not my problem.

This is what I mean about the static equilibrium in 2025. That's what everyone was doing: just writing the other side off. That post of mine did a lot of things, but it did not do that.

Re: Turn And Face The Strange

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Post by mooreds »

jorams wrote: post #21
its-summertime wrote: post #13

> Five of the most dangerous words in startups are “¿Por qué no los dos?”. So are the prior products going to be shut down? If not, then when? if not when, then why not?

Yeah that seems like a weird way to end an article that includes this paragraph: > Fly Machines and our Platform As A Service features aren’t going anywhere. But Sprites was the product of a tiny skeleton crew inside of Fly.io[†], and now it isn’t. So it's both indeed.

Well, there's doing both in terms of focus and effort, basically treating them as peer products. And then there is doing both in terms of "keeping the lights on for one, and focusing on the other".

Without any special insight into fly.io, I'd bet the situation is the latter. You keep the lights and fix security issues for the existing infra (which incidentally gives you money out of cashflow to invest in new efforts).

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Post by yellow_lead »

I don't think these sprites are worth betting the company on, but I guess that will be for the new CEO to decide.

> A Sprite is a hardware-isolated execution environment for arbitrary code: a persistent Linux computer. Whether it's an AI agent like Claude Code or a binary your user just uploaded, Sprites are the simplest answer for "where should I run a blob of code".

I think eventually this isolation may be built in to Claude code / codex, or provided by AI companies themselves.

Re: Turn And Face The Strange

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Post by sisve »

latency-guy2 wrote: post #24
rileymichael wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they lost a lot of aura among folks i know with the 'ai skeptics are nuts' article[1]. haven't read a blog post since. [1] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/

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Maybe tone it down? personal attacks are not needed or wanted. Let's discuss AI, if not keep your comments for yourself

Re: Turn And Face The Strange

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Post by tptacek »

dijksterhuis wrote: post #25
simonw wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I think that post from June 2025 has aged pretty well. The Coding Agent revolution hadn't really happened at that point (Claude Code was only ~4 months old) so the paraphrased message "this stuff is actually useful for programming, saying it's all just stochastic parrots misses the mark" was still non-obvious to a whole lot of people. Honestly, the biggest problem with that article was the title. People read as…

> Honestly, the biggest problem with that article was the title. Pretty sure the content of a company's blog post being overtly arrogant, abrasive, dismissive and generally dickish was also a problem. > Meanwhile, software developers spot code fragments seemingly lifted from public repositories on Github and lose their shit. What about the licensing? If you’re a lawyer, I defer. But if you’re a software developer pla…

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Re: Turn And Face The Strange

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Post by simonw »

yellow_lead wrote: post #33

I don't think these sprites are worth betting the company on, but I guess that will be for the new CEO to decide. > A Sprite is a hardware-isolated execution environment for arbitrary code: a persistent Linux computer. Whether it's an AI agent like Claude Code or a binary your user just uploaded, Sprites are the simplest answer for "where should I run a blob of code". I think eventually this isolation may be built in…

Sprites are about more than just providing an environment for Claude Code et al to run code in. They're also useful for anyone who's building their own product that needs an inexpensive way to execute unsafe code.

Re: Turn And Face The Strange

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Post by seemaze »

conradfr wrote: post #22

> because your laptop stops running when you close the lid. There's a world outside Apple.

Macs let you disable suspend just like (or possibly better) than any other operating system. The point being made is that it's the wrong tool for the job, precisely because of the user desired compromises made to create a great mobile computer.
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