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Bitchat is now on Radicle

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Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#121
post #17

That Radicle site design is an interesting take for a git repo platform. Good use of full width spacing, well thought out navigation, nice code rendering. I dig it.

I wonder if it's possible to make something like this that lets you plug in an arbitrary git repo URL

Install Radicle on a VPS, and create a script that clones a git repo and that then makes it available on Radicle.

Then use the radicle.network site to browse that repo. For example.

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#122
post #67
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well banning it pushed it to Radicle and now people are moving to GitHub alternatives so I think the Streisand effect worked.

Did banning it cause it to get adopted even faster in India than it otherwise would have? That seems like the salient point to me for the Indian government’s calculus. I don’t have a particularly good feel for Indian society but my prior is that this kind of official friction puts a pretty low hard cap on how popular an app can get. If the realistic ambition was only ever to reach a small circle of activists and nerd…

I never even heard of the app until I saw the news it was getting banned, so I installed it out of curiosity - and I'm keeping it installed because I like the idea of it. I presume I'm not alone in this. They're basically giving it free publicity by attempting to ban it.

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#123
post #41

If they care so much about availability maybe they should reconsider including libs.gms.location and be available on F-Droid ( https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/merge_requests/24907#... )

Looks like the repo maintainer just stopped reviewing any PRs or replying to messages. If some wants this to proceed they should probably fork it

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#124
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the main reason they mentioned [1] for radicle.network is because their old domain radicle.xyz was blocked in some places by some lists that they think was because it may have hosted certain UGC that triggered some flags. > Content about Radicle (explainers, guides, download links, blog posts) which is under control of the Radicle team. We will use radicle.dev for these purposes. > Content on Radicle (repositories ho…

What if you disagree with the centralisation of the internet into some guy's suffix list?

relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/2347/

but on a serious note it is a bit more than some guy's list, it's more of an initiative that was started by the Mozilla Foundation and is used by:

- browsers: Firefox, Chrome, Opera...

- password managers, Let's Encrypt, cURL

- Cloudflare

just to name a few.

Though yeah there have been privacy concerns and problems with projects that use outdated versions of the list outlined in Brave's paper (no affiliation):

> We present the first large-scale measurement study of how the public suffix list is used by open-source software on the Web and the privacy harm resulting from projects using outdated versions of the list.

https://brave.com/research/privacy-harms-of-public-suffix-li...

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#125
post #67
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well banning it pushed it to Radicle and now people are moving to GitHub alternatives so I think the Streisand effect worked.

Did banning it cause it to get adopted even faster in India than it otherwise would have? That seems like the salient point to me for the Indian government’s calculus. I don’t have a particularly good feel for Indian society but my prior is that this kind of official friction puts a pretty low hard cap on how popular an app can get. If the realistic ambition was only ever to reach a small circle of activists and nerd…

As soon as installation of software outside Play Store is made impossible, any such discussion is moot already anyway.

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#127

Such a terrible name. Can't believe marketing didn't catch it.

It could be deliberate. Like Wechat's Chinese name is "Weixin", which is a pun on "for sex" in Mandarin (for which its "people nearby" feature originally saw heavy usage). As a decentralized social network, Bitchat might see similar usage.

> which is a pun on "for sex"

Where did you hear that from? Doesn't sound close at all.

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#128
post #87
post #71

Walked around Fusion Festival with Bitchat running. Saw about 20 other devices and a few messages. Nobody replied to my messages. So usage isn't zero, but 20 devices out of 80000 people isn't a lot. Most hops I saw was 2, meaning there wasn't enough density to make it any meaningful distance across the festival grounds.

That's already a lot for such a niche project.

Yeah I always see zero peer lmao

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#129
post #71

Walked around Fusion Festival with Bitchat running. Saw about 20 other devices and a few messages. Nobody replied to my messages. So usage isn't zero, but 20 devices out of 80000 people isn't a lot. Most hops I saw was 2, meaning there wasn't enough density to make it any meaningful distance across the festival grounds.

but it works?? thats actually kinda neat? i tried bringing airtags to a festival with 30k people so our group could find each other and they just shit the bed and didnt work

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#130
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely won’t. People love pointing out the Streisand effect as though we’re still in the same social media dynamic that we were 30 or 15 years ago. Wake the fuck up. Banning the app is 100% certainly going to reduce it all’s usage. The fact that you somehow think you could have the opposite effect is a sign that your head is buried so deep in the sand and you have no idea what the current state of the world is…

Well banning it pushed it to Radicle and now people are moving to GitHub alternatives so I think the Streisand effect worked.

It pushed it to a place with no search-ability and significantly less users. It worked to effectively suppress the project. I say that as someone who uses Radicle and likes the project (I am hoping node search comes soon).
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