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Zero roadkill as Amazon canopy bridges secure 15,000 crossings

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Re: Zero roadkill as Amazon canopy bridges secure 15,000 crossings

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Post by Jensson »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #10
ynac wrote: post #3

We just had our first bear crossing on a wildlife here in the Northwest. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/first-black-bear-u... I know these things are more complicated than they seem at first, but whenever these stories surface, I immediately go to an idealistic childhood cartoon land where we have a prime directive that tells us to go forth(!) and watch out for each other!

I always wonder how the world would look if the bible had said "Respect the earth and all living beings" instead of “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion…"

It would look like India.

Re: Zero roadkill as Amazon canopy bridges secure 15,000 crossings

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Post by SoftTalker »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #28
inigyou wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft Works was such a weird product because it was just half-assed Microsoft Office, but Microsoft Office already existed.

No. Works predated Office by 3 years at least. The first versions of Works ran under ms-dos.

Several other vendors had office "works" suites too. ClarisWorks, AppleWorks, seems like there were some others for the variety of platforms in the 80s/90s but I can't recall them offhand.

Re: Zero roadkill as Amazon canopy bridges secure 15,000 crossings

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Post by SoftTalker »

codeddesign wrote: post #29

Do the animals actually understand roads or that these are crossing points? Or a hope that a percentage will stumble upon them?

They probably see it as an easier crossing than coming down out of the trees to cross the road at ground level. They might feel it's safer too, as being on the open ground is more exposure to predators, which they would instinctively avoid.

Re: Zero roadkill as Amazon canopy bridges secure 15,000 crossings

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Post by HaloZero »

roughly wrote: post #21

I don't know what the local fauna looks like, but I'm curious if it'd be possible to start training trees or vines across the bridges as a way to gradually replace the ropes with something more durable - I'm thinking something like the Root Bridges in India[1] that last for centuries. I worry with projects like this that the first version's easy enough to build and show off, but if you don't keep up with the ongoing…

I've been here! It takes a veryyyyy long time to grow them unfortunately and they're not as durable as they seem though. I don't think they last for centuries...

Re: Zero roadkill as Amazon canopy bridges secure 15,000 crossings

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Post by embedding-shape »

codeddesign wrote: post #29

Do the animals actually understand roads or that these are crossing points? Or a hope that a percentage will stumble upon them?

It ends up being the path of least resistance. In many places, there are wildlife fencing around motorways, but it always ends up with holes and animals crossing via the holes, mostly because the animals want to get to the other side and don't find another way. I've never seen those kind of "hanging jungle bridges" like the article talks about, but "wildlife bridges" which literally are bridges with just earth/tress/vegetation on top I've encountered a bunch of times. When those exists, the animals who want to cross can then find a path to get to the other side, without resorting to making a hole in the fence and crossing the roads.

Re: Zero roadkill as Amazon canopy bridges secure 15,000 crossings

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Post by infogulch »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #10
ynac wrote: post #3

We just had our first bear crossing on a wildlife here in the Northwest. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/first-black-bear-u... I know these things are more complicated than they seem at first, but whenever these stories surface, I immediately go to an idealistic childhood cartoon land where we have a prime directive that tells us to go forth(!) and watch out for each other!

I always wonder how the world would look if the bible had said "Respect the earth and all living beings" instead of “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion…"

"be fruitful" and "replenish the earth" is already aligned

As for "subdue", ask anyone maintaining a large garden how much they have to work to keep it from reverting back to a wilderness. Gardening is choosing which species stay and which are forcibly removed and optimizing the environment to enable your chosen species to thrive. If the words "subdue" and "dominion" freak you out, pick your brains up off the floor and go touch grass.

Western civilization has decided that it wants to keep the primate species and is dissatisfied when they become roadkill, so it altered the environment to enable the chosen species to thrive. This article is a gardening success story. Gardening requires dominion. We have dominion over the primates and we have chosen to be benevolent with that dominion.

Re: Zero roadkill as Amazon canopy bridges secure 15,000 crossings

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

SoftTalker wrote: post #32
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Works predated Office by 3 years at least. The first versions of Works ran under ms-dos.

Several other vendors had office "works" suites too. ClarisWorks, AppleWorks, seems like there were some others for the variety of platforms in the 80s/90s but I can't recall them offhand.

Lotus symphony.

Re: Zero roadkill as Amazon canopy bridges secure 15,000 crossings

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Post by mr_toad »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #23
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always wonder how the world would look if the bible had said "Respect the earth and all living beings" instead of “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion…"

The tribe with the bible that directed to multiply would have conquered the tribe with the bible that directed respect the earth and all living beings because back then, might was proportional to population.

“ It has not occurred to you that your ancestors were survivors and that the survival itself sometimes involved savage decisions, a kind of wanton brutality which civilized humankind works very hard to suppress. What price will you pay for that suppression? Will you accept your own extinction?”

- Frank Herbert, God Emperor of Dune

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