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Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

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Post by qphe95 »

nfbdhdfbf wrote: post #56
illithid0 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely this won't have the opposite effect that they're looking for.

It definitely won’t. People love pointing out the Streisand effect as though we’re still in the same social media dynamic that we were 30 or 15 years ago. Wake the fuck up. Banning the app is 100% certainly going to reduce it all’s usage. The fact that you somehow think you could have the opposite effect is a sign that your head is buried so deep in the sand and you have no idea what the current state of the world is…

Well banning it pushed it to Radicle and now people are moving to GitHub alternatives so I think the Streisand effect worked.

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#63

Post by wat10000 »

nfbdhdfbf wrote: post #56
illithid0 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely this won't have the opposite effect that they're looking for.

It definitely won’t. People love pointing out the Streisand effect as though we’re still in the same social media dynamic that we were 30 or 15 years ago. Wake the fuck up. Banning the app is 100% certainly going to reduce it all’s usage. The fact that you somehow think you could have the opposite effect is a sign that your head is buried so deep in the sand and you have no idea what the current state of the world is…

The Streisand effect only works for things people are interested in to begin with. People love embarrassing photos about celebrities so it works great on those. "A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging app with dual transport architecture." Oops, you've already lost everyone.

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#64

Post by ckcheng »

IshKebab wrote: post #28
lostmsu wrote: post #18

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One seems to be built on top of the other? Very confusing though, I agree.

I think radicle.dev is the software that lets you store issues and PRs inside a Git repo, and radicle.network is some kind of interface to people's hosts that run the Radicle software. Something like that? I agree it's super confusing though and their explanation isn't exactly clear: https://radicle.network/principles

Yes, I think it’s like a decentralized GitHub?

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#66

Post by ranger_danger »

nfbdhdfbf wrote: post #56
illithid0 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely this won't have the opposite effect that they're looking for.

It definitely won’t. People love pointing out the Streisand effect as though we’re still in the same social media dynamic that we were 30 or 15 years ago. Wake the fuck up. Banning the app is 100% certainly going to reduce it all’s usage. The fact that you somehow think you could have the opposite effect is a sign that your head is buried so deep in the sand and you have no idea what the current state of the world is…

When people talk about the Streisand Effect, they usually refer to content that someone wants to disappear entirely, not merely lower its usage.

In that regard the effect is effective in making sure bitchat cannot vanish from the internet.

We can argue that overall usage of it might still go down, but I don't think anyone was arguing that.

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#67

Post by mastax »

qphe95 wrote: post #61
nfbdhdfbf wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely won’t. People love pointing out the Streisand effect as though we’re still in the same social media dynamic that we were 30 or 15 years ago. Wake the fuck up. Banning the app is 100% certainly going to reduce it all’s usage. The fact that you somehow think you could have the opposite effect is a sign that your head is buried so deep in the sand and you have no idea what the current state of the world is…

Well banning it pushed it to Radicle and now people are moving to GitHub alternatives so I think the Streisand effect worked.

Did banning it cause it to get adopted even faster in India than it otherwise would have? That seems like the salient point to me for the Indian government’s calculus. I don’t have a particularly good feel for Indian society but my prior is that this kind of official friction puts a pretty low hard cap on how popular an app can get. If the realistic ambition was only ever to reach a small circle of activists and nerds then sure, this event probably helped the app reach those people faster.

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

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Post by culi »

VulgarExigency wrote: post #48
culi wrote: post #21

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It's explicitly in opposition to ATProto. That's probably why they went with Radicle and not Tangled

What the hell are Radicle and Tangled

They're curtains for Zoosha. An alternative to Poob (which is now on Pheebo).

EDIT: sorry I felt too bad not to leave an explanation

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/curtains-for-zoosha

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/poob-has-it-for-you

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

#69

Post by inigyou »

culi wrote: post #68
VulgarExigency wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the hell are Radicle and Tangled

They're curtains for Zoosha. An alternative to Poob (which is now on Pheebo). EDIT: sorry I felt too bad not to leave an explanation https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/curtains-for-zoosha https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/poob-has-it-for-you

Thanks for combobulating. I used to use Hackysack but I switched to Phlegm after the Unhappy Kittens controversy.

Re: Bitchat is now on Radicle

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Post by culi »

mastax wrote: post #67
qphe95 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well banning it pushed it to Radicle and now people are moving to GitHub alternatives so I think the Streisand effect worked.

Did banning it cause it to get adopted even faster in India than it otherwise would have? That seems like the salient point to me for the Indian government’s calculus. I don’t have a particularly good feel for Indian society but my prior is that this kind of official friction puts a pretty low hard cap on how popular an app can get. If the realistic ambition was only ever to reach a small circle of activists and nerd…

Likely faster than it would've otherwise but not likely as fast as it needs to to succeed. Similar to when Twitter got bought out and then Musk banned people who linked their Mastodon. It certainly helped Mastodon in the short term but likely hurt it in the long term
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