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Re: The Fedora 45 Sausage Factory

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Post by rogerrogerr »

root-parent wrote: post #6
jcastro wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's most of the entire planet using Linux.

And social media and fast food...does not mean its good for you...

I’m out of the loop on this, not trying to ignite a holy war, but what’s the gist of the anti-systemd stance?

Re: The Fedora 45 Sausage Factory

#12

Post by hangrybear666 »

So as a relatively fresh Fedora user (2024) who just sold their Windows PC (2025) and is in love with the OS, where would be a good place to look for areas to contribute in? Is there a place where Fedora maintainers write down what parts of the pipeline are in need of volunteers?

Re: The Fedora 45 Sausage Factory

#13

Post by root-parent »

robmusial wrote: post #10
root-parent wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's probably being downvoted and flagged because it's off topic to the post and adds no substance which is against site rules.

Its not off topic, as reply to the comment, the post is replying.

Re: The Fedora 45 Sausage Factory

#14

Post by supakeen »

hangrybear666 wrote: post #12

So as a relatively fresh Fedora user (2024) who just sold their Windows PC (2025) and is in love with the OS, where would be a good place to look for areas to contribute in? Is there a place where Fedora maintainers write down what parts of the pipeline are in need of volunteers?

There's a guide! It's here: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/ (or: https://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-contribute-to-fedora/)

Personally I feel a good way to get involved is to test updates in bodhi for those packages you care about, or to take part in the process that happens around release time where we go through several freeze cycles and have 'blocker bugs' that need their fixes to be validated: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process

Re: The Fedora 45 Sausage Factory

#15

Post by miloshadzic »

rogerrogerr wrote: post #11
root-parent wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And social media and fast food...does not mean its good for you...

I’m out of the loop on this, not trying to ignite a holy war, but what’s the gist of the anti-systemd stance?

New thing bad

Re: The Fedora 45 Sausage Factory

#16

Post by WesolyKubeczek »

> Every build starts from a clean room. You can never get a different result because someone installed something on the builder last week.

At least 6 years ago, this was not entirely true: a package happened to build only because, by happy accident, the builder had a dependency installed by something else. Since the dependency was not in its Build-Requires:, the build would fail in COPR, which really used a clean room. A case of being saved by the alphabetic order, I guess?

Maybe they have updated Koji since.

Re: The Fedora 45 Sausage Factory

#17

Post by shalg »

rogerrogerr wrote: post #11
root-parent wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And social media and fast food...does not mean its good for you...

I’m out of the loop on this, not trying to ignite a holy war, but what’s the gist of the anti-systemd stance?

It’s at odds with the philosophy of do one thing and do it well. Its monolithic feature set pushes out smaller contributors and leads to increased reliance on a singular package. This tends to self reinforce. I also use systemd in my current distro so not sure where I stand on this but it’s a fair concern.

Re: The Fedora 45 Sausage Factory

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Post by temp0826 »

root-parent wrote: post #8
einpoklum wrote: post #4

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I think the systemd people state that it is more than an init system, maybe your expectation of it needs to be adjusted. "systemd is a software suite for system and service management on Linux built to unify service configuration and behavior across Linux distributions." One of the great things about Linux is that you can always choose a distro that fits your ideals (or whatever else).

Re: The Fedora 45 Sausage Factory

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Post by q8zd3 »

hangrybear666 wrote: post #12

So as a relatively fresh Fedora user (2024) who just sold their Windows PC (2025) and is in love with the OS, where would be a good place to look for areas to contribute in? Is there a place where Fedora maintainers write down what parts of the pipeline are in need of volunteers?

I would recommend to look at Fefora's infra "backlog": https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues
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