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IMAX vs. IMAX 70mm: The difference between these two cinema formats

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Re: IMAX vs. IMAX 70mm: The difference between these two cinema formats

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I'm curious about the opinions on 70mm (non-IMAX) vs Digital IMAX.

What do you prefer if you have tried both. Because those are the only mostly accessible options around the world.

Sound is also something to consider, because depending on the Theater they might have wildy different sound setups even different audio standards.

Re: IMAX vs. IMAX 70mm: The difference between these two cinema formats

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post #2

I'm curious about the opinions on 70mm (non-IMAX) vs Digital IMAX. What do you prefer if you have tried both. Because those are the only mostly accessible options around the world. Sound is also something to consider, because depending on the Theater they might have wildy different sound setups even different audio standards.

I've seen non-IMAX 70mm referred to 5/70 because the image uses five perforations per frame; IMAX 70mm is then 15/70 because it uses fifteen perforations.

Digital IMAX is much bigger:

* https://old.reddit.com/r/imax/comments/pysn87/tremendously_h...

* https://old.reddit.com/r/imax/comments/1405mz0/standard_70mm...

Re: IMAX vs. IMAX 70mm: The difference between these two cinema formats

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post #2

I'm curious about the opinions on 70mm (non-IMAX) vs Digital IMAX. What do you prefer if you have tried both. Because those are the only mostly accessible options around the world. Sound is also something to consider, because depending on the Theater they might have wildy different sound setups even different audio standards.

I've seen non-IMAX 70mm referred to 5/70 because the image uses five perforations per frame; IMAX 70mm is then 15/70 because it uses fifteen perforations. Digital IMAX is much bigger: * https://old.reddit.com/r/imax/comments/pysn87/tremendously_h... * https://old.reddit.com/r/imax/comments/1405mz0/standard_70mm...

How much can we trust the "Reddit IMAX community"? The people heavily invested in a technology as their hobby aren't always the best sources of objective technical information; is /r/imax more of an "audiophile forum" or more of a forum of people who actually know their stuff?

Re: IMAX vs. IMAX 70mm: The difference between these two cinema formats

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen non-IMAX 70mm referred to 5/70 because the image uses five perforations per frame; IMAX 70mm is then 15/70 because it uses fifteen perforations. Digital IMAX is much bigger: * https://old.reddit.com/r/imax/comments/pysn87/tremendously_h... * https://old.reddit.com/r/imax/comments/1405mz0/standard_70mm...

How much can we trust the "Reddit IMAX community"? The people heavily invested in a technology as their hobby aren't always the best sources of objective technical information; is /r/imax more of an "audiophile forum" or more of a forum of people who actually know their stuff?

What is inaccurate about this size comparison?

* https://old.reddit.com/r/imax/comments/1tw4jyy/psa_70mm_and_...

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBEcjZN8io

Certainly we need to be mindful of biases, but you can also simply be falling into a tu quoque, ad hominem fallacy.

At the end of the day, are these 'fancy' theatre experiences (IMAX and the others out there) worth the extra ticket price to you? Certainly Christopher Nolan thinks so since he was willing to put up with the hassle of the IMAX gear for months on end (including airlifting them up to top of mountains), but what will you get out of it watching is something on you can answer.

Of course the largest complaint I tend to hear about Nolan films is the audio mixing, not the visuals.

Re: IMAX vs. IMAX 70mm: The difference between these two cinema formats

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This is purely my opinion. I see 70mm as mostly a movie scam to extort exorbitant amounts of cash from a ticket for something that's vaguely noticeable outside the aspect ratio itself.

Note that I'm not disputing that there is a visual difference, there is, the image is clearer, shaper, with better darks, but the entry fee paired with how out of the way 70mm is, it's just ends up feeling like FOMO.

My opinion doesn't hold much value since I just dislike the cinema experience in general. I like being able to control the environment I'm in when watching something (pausing, eating, loudness...) and whenever I go to cinemas I have to deal with people having their smartphones screens brighten up, people yapping and laughing at things that aren't funny, eating noises, etc...

Re: IMAX vs. IMAX 70mm: The difference between these two cinema formats

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I've recently been to a planetarium which was pretty cool. It has in theory even better specs: 45 million pixels (8K has 33 million), ~500nits, 60Hz. It did seem to use PWM at very low brightness though

https://planetariums-database.org/list_projectors.php?menu=l...

Re: IMAX vs. IMAX 70mm: The difference between these two cinema formats

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IMHO, the only reasons for using 70 mm IMAX are nostalgia and marketing. Digital movie cameras have far better color reproduction, more dynamic range, zero frame jitter, and plenty of resolution without grain. They are also small and silent which allows far more interesting shots than what is possible with a 70 mm monster. Kubrick and Lean used 70 mm because it was the best technology available at the time. Today, the best technology is digital.

Re: IMAX vs. IMAX 70mm: The difference between these two cinema formats

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much can we trust the "Reddit IMAX community"? The people heavily invested in a technology as their hobby aren't always the best sources of objective technical information; is /r/imax more of an "audiophile forum" or more of a forum of people who actually know their stuff?

What is inaccurate about this size comparison? * https://old.reddit.com/r/imax/comments/1tw4jyy/psa_70mm_and_... * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBEcjZN8io Certainly we need to be mindful of biases, but you can also simply be falling into a tu quoque , ad hominem fallacy. At the end of the day, are these 'fancy' theatre experiences (IMAX and the others out there) worth the extra ticket price to you? Certainly Chri…

>"Certainly Christopher Nolan thinks so since he was willing to put up with the hassle of the IMAX gear for months on end (including airlifting them up to top of mountains), but what will you get out of it watching is something on you can answer."

The 70MM IMAX showings at Lincoln Square are still completely sold out 4x/day for the next month. People are filling the theater at 6AM on a Saturday to see it. The market has clearly spoken.

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