Nowadays I don't understand why you wouldn't use a (more-or-less) nearby hosted Chinese model. You have the security, you have roughly the same performance, and you have an order of magnitude more bang for your buck. Bonus point : the models aren't censored and won't refuse to answer in the middle of your coding session.
How does it connect to let's say, vscode. I would love to move away from Claude, but it's really easy to set up. Just add a vscode extension
Corporate America Has Suddenly Decided to Stop Blowing Money on AI
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Re: Corporate America Has Suddenly Decided to Stop Blowing Money on AI
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s a forcing function. If you are running a company you need to be in control. Some engineers dngaf or will sandbag everything. We did a 90 day push and identified where we found value and where we didn’t. Our tools teams really upped their game, more than expected, and it would have been unlikely to have been funded if they tried to justify the budget as an individual initiative. There’s a spectrum of people - som…
Exactly. People misunderstand the point of the tokenmaxxing time period, it was to force people to use AI so as to not have them stuck in their way, as some people are, and then to evaluate how it can help the company.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, you can say that all day long but realistically would your “small startup” even exist if your firm was charged Enterprise rates or the actual compute costs and denied access to capital to subsidize your users? It’s a fair question. The other, more complex one would be “what benefit” are you talking about? Clearly there are some differences in performance regarding speed and token cost, but industry news indicat…
Hallucinations are not really a big problem in day to day work
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#44The only path forward is to get LSD into the water supply at Davos and put on a really scary play about Rokko’s Basilisk for all the money people, or else Sam Altman won’t be able to afford to repair his infinity pool
They need a new acronym: AGI -> ASI -> Artificial Mega Intelligence AMI? Maybe go back to AGI but make it mean Artificial Godlike Intelligence? It's too bad Altman already blew his wad with the whole Dyson sphere thing. It's hard to top that. Maybe he can promise them a paperclip universe? That's gotta be worth a few more trillion.
Re: Corporate America Has Suddenly Decided to Stop Blowing Money on AI
#45Nowadays I don't understand why you wouldn't use a (more-or-less) nearby hosted Chinese model. You have the security, you have roughly the same performance, and you have an order of magnitude more bang for your buck. Bonus point : the models aren't censored and won't refuse to answer in the middle of your coding session.
Is censorship not an issue with Chinese models?
Can’t do that with OAI and Claude
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is censorship not an issue with Chinese models?
It's about whether or not their censorship affects you . Their models are censored for the Chinese audience. Meanwhile Anthropic OpenAI etc models are censored for the American audience. So by default you'd be better with one of the Chinese models if you're American.
Chinese models have government-enforced censorship, while American models have security and legal restrictions.
Re: Corporate America Has Suddenly Decided to Stop Blowing Money on AI
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, you can say that all day long but realistically would your “small startup” even exist if your firm was charged Enterprise rates or the actual compute costs and denied access to capital to subsidize your users? It’s a fair question. The other, more complex one would be “what benefit” are you talking about? Clearly there are some differences in performance regarding speed and token cost, but industry news indicat…
Hallucinations are not really a big problem in day to day work
Re: Corporate America Has Suddenly Decided to Stop Blowing Money on AI
#48Nowadays I don't understand why you wouldn't use a (more-or-less) nearby hosted Chinese model. You have the security, you have roughly the same performance, and you have an order of magnitude more bang for your buck. Bonus point : the models aren't censored and won't refuse to answer in the middle of your coding session.
China bad. Or if you want to rationalize your xenophobia, you’d say the Chinese models will secretly backdoor your code and kill your grandma.
Re: Corporate America Has Suddenly Decided to Stop Blowing Money on AI
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, you can say that all day long but realistically would your “small startup” even exist if your firm was charged Enterprise rates or the actual compute costs and denied access to capital to subsidize your users? It’s a fair question. The other, more complex one would be “what benefit” are you talking about? Clearly there are some differences in performance regarding speed and token cost, but industry news indicat…
Hallucinations are not really a big problem in day to day work
Re: Corporate America Has Suddenly Decided to Stop Blowing Money on AI
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s a forcing function. If you are running a company you need to be in control. Some engineers dngaf or will sandbag everything. We did a 90 day push and identified where we found value and where we didn’t. Our tools teams really upped their game, more than expected, and it would have been unlikely to have been funded if they tried to justify the budget as an individual initiative. There’s a spectrum of people - som…
Exactly. People misunderstand the point of the tokenmaxxing time period, it was to force people to use AI so as to not have them stuck in their way, as some people are, and then to evaluate how it can help the company.
If you don't have the flexibility to regularly push your context to 1M, or do elaborate xhigh planning sessions, your opinion won't reflect reality.