This is actually pretty cool. They took all the nice parts of Fable and trimmed the dangerous parts out. I guess distils do work (in some cases). It's very clear they did the same with Sonnet 5, due to the way it orchestrated things, but I think Sonnet was the wrong model to distil Fable from.
Claude Opus 5
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Re: Claude Opus 5
#872Earlier quoted context omitted.
Opus 4.8 decided to code up its own version of the SwiftUI rendering engine for iOS when I asked it to change a swipe gesture. I left the computer for several hours, came back, noticed it still wasn't done, noticed it had alarmingly burned through my weekly tokens, and had to stop it from continuing. "You're right. What I did was overkill and I should have just used iOS's built-in rendering engine. Noted for next tim…
That is hilarious. "write a program that list files" "Sure! First let's implement a file system, and the operating system around it, and design the hardware that runs it..."
If you wish to make ls from scratch you must first invent the universe.
Re: Claude Opus 5
#873Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.
"I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this." Also said after seeing the printing press, automobile, calculator, etc for the first time
My god, the printing press was invented in 1440 when most people were living in abject poverty - it took until after WW2 for humans to demand a more shared amount of money between rich and poor. If you think technology delivers improvements in living standards rather than all working people demanding better conditions you’re living in an absolute fantasy and do not understand history at all. I honestly can’t believe you think this.
Re: Claude Opus 5
#874That's a crazy arc 3 score. What do people think of this? Are models actually developing fluid intelligence like what the creators claim to be measuring? Is it jus do to training for it? Is the benchmark flawed?
Have you played Arc 3? It seems like more of a simple optimization problem (think Sokoban) than anything approaching fluid intelligence. Whether a multi hundred billion dollar company would spend time benchmaxxing a highly publicized benchmark that claims to confer AGI is an exercise left to the reader, but I doubt Claude Plays Pokemon is suddenly going to get past Mt. Doom now.
Btw Fable beat Pokémon with just vision.
Re: Claude Opus 5
#875Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.
Automation is only good if you're putting blue collar people out of work! White-collar is out of bounds! People should do the work where they add unique value
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Re: Claude Opus 5
#876I compared the writing style of Opus 5 vs Fable 5, and Opus 5 continues many of the "Claude-isms" of its 4.8 predecessor in a way that Fable broke away from. Opus 5 still uses "carry the argument", "worth stating plainly", ", and the trap", "The X matters more", the use of "move" We need an "annoying English" benchmark. - Fable 5 Max: https://gist.github.com/deet/3d97f854b48eac6658d642fa18bb24d... - Opus 5 Max: https…
These are relatively easy to nip in the bud with a brief addition to claude.md
Re: Claude Opus 5
#877Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.
Automation is only good if you're putting blue collar people out of work! White-collar is out of bounds! People should do the work where they add unique value
Yes, white collar people are not allowed to express concerns about losing their career. I'm sure no blue collar person ever did.
Re: Claude Opus 5
#878Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't this jaw-droppingly the wrong answer?! If the model isn't given any way to directly view the image shouldn't it just reply with one sentence asking for permission. This reads as a model hyper-trained to burn tokens. Like suppose you issue a command to Opus or Fable which doesn't make sense and requires a lot of work. It will almost certainly not push back on your silly request and go ahead and burn as many toke…
It's likely bumping up against people's desire to have the model complete a given task without asking the person to intervene a bunch of times. Seems unclear how you satisfy everyone here.
Give the model judgement
Re: Claude Opus 5
#879Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.
This is just so negative. How will it destroy your life? There are so many great and useful things it can and will do to improve humanity.
> There are so many great and useful things it can and will do to improve humanity.
Caveat: Only if it also produces shareholder value
Re: Claude Opus 5
#880Earlier quoted context omitted.
"I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this." Also said after seeing the printing press, automobile, calculator, etc for the first time
My god, the printing press was invented in 1440 when most people were living in abject poverty - it took until after WW2 for humans to demand a more shared amount of money between rich and poor. If you think technology delivers improvements in living standards rather than all working people demanding better conditions you’re living in an absolute fantasy and do not understand history at all. I honestly can’t believe…
> If you think technology delivers improvements in living standards rather than all working people demanding better conditions you’re living in an absolute fantasy
Demanding better conditions does not just manufacture the technology, infrastructure, and productivity needed to provide the improvement in the standard of living. I think you're in the fantasy realm, my friend.