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NYC Apartment Aquaponics

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Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#31

> in our one-bedroom NYC apartment ... Bigger tank = better If tank fails, you are liable for water damages and home insurance DOES NOT cover that. We were flodded by neighbours, the damage was $20.000 in cheap east europe commie block. Plus bigger tanks need structural support in floor (steel beams).

> home insurance DOES NOT cover that Citation needed. Very bold sweeping claim

Every apartment lease I’ve signed specifically prohibits aquariums.

Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously, this is a cool project and I’m sure the person had a lot of fun which some people are apparently allergic to.

It's just not very interesting as a whole. A quant and his programmer gf living in ny stack 3 fishtanks in a rack. It's questionable why it's even on here at all.

To each their own but I thought it was a fun post. I enjoyed seeing a post that wasn’t “AI is terrible” or “Everyone should use AI for everything”

Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#33
I can still remember ads for the "Biotron" flourescent grow system in various magazines back in the '70s --- the ad featured roses, but of course the actual usage was typically for growing marijuana. (Later that name was co-opted by the Micronauts toy line/comic books for a character).

The O Garden seemed an interesting modern spin (couldn't resist the pun):

https://www.coolthings.com/ogarden-rotating-indoor-planter-w...

(but I think they went under? The footprint was kind of extravagant)

I still think someone needs to work up a unit designed to fit next to a refrigerator --- bonus points for circulating filtered air so that the heat from the fridge is harvested for the plants.

The other option I've been curious about is a window unit mounted like an in-window air conditioner (maybe you could combine the two? harvest the condensate and heat for the benefit of the plants?)

Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just not very interesting as a whole. A quant and his programmer gf living in ny stack 3 fishtanks in a rack. It's questionable why it's even on here at all.

I don't care about the rest, but "stack 3 fishtanks in a rack" is interesting enough to read about to me. I upvoted it, maybe just to spite you :)

Rack plan:

HU 42: TOR switch. 41-40: management server (2U). 39: git server for `fish` (1U). 38: build server for `fish` (1U). 37-28: fish (10U). 27-24: plan9s. 23-14: plants. 13-5: plumbing. 4-1: UPS.

Don't put your UPS under a fishtank, folks. It becomes an IPS when it gets wet.

Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#35

A few years ago, I read in a book that it is feasible and safe to manufacture colloidal silver at home using electrolysis. I was intrigued, because my father had conducted many similar projects with success, in the kitchen, in the garage, and in the backyard, as he worked for EH&S. The Dunning-Kruger swelled within me. I reviewed photographs of the home lab setups, and I evaluated ingredient/supply/equipment lists. I…

If you have a profitable project that grows, don't worry about space. The profit (if significant) will cover the cost of more space.

Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#36

> in our one-bedroom NYC apartment ... Bigger tank = better If tank fails, you are liable for water damages and home insurance DOES NOT cover that. We were flodded by neighbours, the damage was $20.000 in cheap east europe commie block. Plus bigger tanks need structural support in floor (steel beams).

Structural support in the floor? There are people that weigh more than this. It’s only 20 gallons

But big tanks do need extra support. This is a relevant thing to post in case someone is thinking about scaling it up.

The Pfizer building in NYC almost collapsed after they tried to build a swimming pool on the roof. This happens semi-regularly when building owners ignore, or don't consult, engineers about rooftop swimming pools. Every owner wants one and doesn't want to be told no.

Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#37

> in our one-bedroom NYC apartment ... Bigger tank = better If tank fails, you are liable for water damages and home insurance DOES NOT cover that. We were flodded by neighbours, the damage was $20.000 in cheap east europe commie block. Plus bigger tanks need structural support in floor (steel beams).

Structural support in the floor? There are people that weigh more than this. It’s only 20 gallons

As someone who has over 800 gallons in aquariums between three tanks in his house, I'll say structural support is not as important as people make it out to be (ask an actual structural enginer). Anything up to 120 or so is just fine hanging out on a floor without extra support.

Also steel is completely unnecessary unless you're doing something wild like that guy in NYC with a 17,000 gallon home aquarium. If you're just throwing a 200 gallon or so on a second floor, an enginer might not care at all if its across the joists or has a wall below it, but even if its completely open below, the "support" might just be a joist of a different design, or an inch thicker or one extra joist. Steel is really not nessecary

Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#38

I love the idea of hydro/aquaponics and built a system as a student more than a decade ago. It’s a fun project. But as a form of agriculture it’s a spectacularly bad idea at home. This setup is about 1 square meter of NYC space, that’s about $18k. Meanwhile agricultural land goes for about $2/m2, or 9000x less. Then you spend $700 in parts to set up the 1 square meter, even if you put the system on cheap rural Kentuc…

No one is reading this thinking it’s going to replace industrial farming. It’s just fun

> no one reading this

So probably 99% of the users are clicking directly to the comments and upvoting the inane GP comment to the top, and the “no one reading this” is actually almost no one.

The article itself is clearly just a hobby learning fun project.

Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#39
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't care about the rest, but "stack 3 fishtanks in a rack" is interesting enough to read about to me. I upvoted it, maybe just to spite you :)

Rack plan: HU 42: TOR switch. 41-40: management server (2U). 39: git server for `fish` (1U). 38: build server for `fish` (1U). 37-28: fish (10U). 27-24: plan9s. 23-14: plants. 13-5: plumbing. 4-1: UPS. Don't put your UPS under a fishtank, folks. It becomes an IPS when it gets wet.

> Don't put your UPS under a fishtank, folks

You know, maybe I should reconsider having my UPS at the bottom of a rack that contains one server in the middle with liquid CPU cooling... Or just add a liquid sensor between them somewhere perhaps.

Re: NYC Apartment Aquaponics

#40
Cool project. I wonder how large a tank you need to get room fle aquatic animals you would actually eat.

And as a small aside, idk how one can write sentences like this and not immediately revolt and switch to metric:

  Since a gallon of fresh water weighs roughly 8.34lbs, we estimate this puts the entire weight of the system’s water somewhere between 170 and 250lbs.
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