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Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by Certhas »

vitalyan8184 wrote: post #803
muldvarp wrote: post #796

Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.

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As far as I am aware this is a racist/xenophobic narrative with little to no evidence. Automatisation is responsible for job losses, not immigration. If you have studies/evidence saying otherwise please share.

I agree that too many people have shrugged at the human impact of "innovation" destroying communities as long as it didn't impact them. I believe the immigration/foreigners narrative is the successful attempt by capital owners who benefit from the real root causes.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by amoss »

alex43578 wrote: post #767
teiferer wrote: post #721

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> responded by writing its own computer vision pipeline Was it "its own" or something that was part of its training material? Don't get me wrong, I find this all amazing too and makes my work 10x easier and quicker. But it's not like it's inventing this stuff from scratch / first principles. It has seen this kind of tech before by consuming all publicly available source code and books etc. (And that's ok, but let's b…

Is anything you do on your own? You wrote this response in English, but didn't invent your own language. How dilute of a contribution can someone/something have made and still merit credit?

The tu quoque argument doesn't really work here. LLMs are specifically designed to output either material from their training set or instances that look statistically like it. Humans are not.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by bradleyjg »

ultrarunner wrote: post #810
bradleyjg wrote: post #802

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Let’s say somehow the politics lined up and you were given huge hiring budget for your team. You went out and recruited what seemed like great talent. Weekly standups make it seem like everyone is ramped up and firing on all cylinders. It’s great, right? But you look at what your team has actually delivered since—-and it’s just not that much more than last year. I think that’s where a lot of us are at the micro and m…

There's been a dramatic increase in sloppy kinda-working something.vercel.com output in niche circles. I think that shows at least a weak demand for certain types of software, but it's not clear that the vast piles of cash that have been burned producing these "apps" are actually resulting in quality of life improvements.

I’m waiting for like GEICO’s app to significantly improve.

I’m not expecting Chrome to because it already had virtually unlimited resources devoted to it. On the other side I’m not expecting my local water district’s to any time soon because the people in charge don’t care even if it was significantly cheaper to improve.

But in the middle is something like GEICO and that’s where I expect improvements if this thing is real.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by xedrac »

hi_im_greg_h wrote: post #790
alex43578 wrote: post #767

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Is anything you do on your own? You wrote this response in English, but didn't invent your own language. How dilute of a contribution can someone/something have made and still merit credit?

I’m sorry but I find this to be the worst response possible lol. Do you honestly not see how there is a difference between a computer regurgitating information vs a human uses what they’ve learned and applying it? I just can’t take your argument seriously, it’s so disingenuous

One could argue that human learning is not all that different from machines training on data. We are all regurgitation our own experiences and knowledge to some degree. We certainly have things that machines don't, but LLMs can definitely come up with novel things that were not in the training data.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by duplessitous »

vitalyan8184 wrote: post #803
muldvarp wrote: post #796

Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.

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the laptop class isn't the one illegally hiring and hiding millions of aliens such that they can undercut US wages and make them selves exorbitantly wealthy. embarrassing and classless behavior, go back to reddit

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by tossandthrow »

Certhas wrote: post #811
vitalyan8184 wrote: post #803

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As far as I am aware this is a racist/xenophobic narrative with little to no evidence. Automatisation is responsible for job losses, not immigration. If you have studies/evidence saying otherwise please share. I agree that too many people have shrugged at the human impact of "innovation" destroying communities as long as it didn't impact them. I believe the immigration/foreigners narrative is the successful attempt b…

It is neither racist of xenophobic, and you using that as a argument is an extreme strawman.

There is certainly a class that has been disrupted over the last 20-30 years to the point where their lives gone worse.

It would likely have been protected with trade barriers and immigration barriers.

Om the other hand, I don't believe protectionism has ever been the solution. Why should the domestic labor be protected over international labour?

Increasing inequality is, however, one of the greatest threats so society.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by hahajk »

Certhas wrote: post #811
vitalyan8184 wrote: post #803

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As far as I am aware this is a racist/xenophobic narrative with little to no evidence. Automatisation is responsible for job losses, not immigration. If you have studies/evidence saying otherwise please share. I agree that too many people have shrugged at the human impact of "innovation" destroying communities as long as it didn't impact them. I believe the immigration/foreigners narrative is the successful attempt b…

A quick search for "labor supply" turned up this microeconomics lesson: https://youtu.be/002_HEC2l-4?is=Tu6dZfNOyK7DFpWB

Wages, like all prices, are determined by supply and demand.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by Angy1999 »

sznio wrote: post #671
Kwpolska wrote: post #464

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Fable might be using those phrases less, but its writing is still terrible and exhausting to read.

If it's "read as an article" or something then yeah it's crap and Fable's current style isn't actually better than older models. For flowery speech old models are perfectly fine. For quickly parsing the agent output, it's formulaism isn't a bad thing. Fable's writing does have a property of going over my head, which didn't happen with earlier agents. Asking for clarification doesn't really give good results. We've go…

formalism is a beautiful way to put it. I liked that about Fable, but for most people it goes over their head.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by lucas_the_human »

muldvarp wrote: post #796

Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.

This is just so negative. How will it destroy your life?

There are so many great and useful things it can and will do to improve humanity.

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