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Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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>I mean, it is not as if RFK was the darling candidate of HN at one time? Wasn't my darling candidate. Mostly because I can read research papers and understand that drinking raw milk and avoiding vaccines doesn't make me healthier.

FWIW raw milk is actually OK. Drank it “directly” from the cows, never got sick from it. *directly = cow milked into a cup.

This is exactly how the RFK shit gets support: one person says "hey, I did it and I'm fine!" somehow get extrapolated to "it's good for _Everyone_"

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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The coverup is always worse than the crime. What a way to abuse your customers!!! They knowingly tried to sell tainted lettuce?

A good reminder that the current administration is covering up the largest CSA ring in human history.

Does HN have a filter preventing you from calling it a child rape ring?

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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"No shit?" jokes aside, it seems like a bad corporate strategy. Rather than owning up and doing what they can to protect their customers, they kept trying to hide, and now Taylor Farms is going to forever be associated in customers minds with explosive diarrhea.

They tried to hide it before the news got out in the first place; the reason executives in general are so excited about Trump is that they think he's going to let them bribe their way out of anything. I'm a bit surprised to hear no bribe was accepted here, although I suppose an uncontrolled explosive diarrhea outbreak would be hard for regime officials to keep a lid on.

The regime officials could just pivot the blame: woke caused this, Biden's economy caused this, immigrants caused this

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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They need to be restructured such that their success or failure has a direct impact on the justices' retirement accounts.

Is this a pro-bribery comment?

It's a statement of fact. Bribery is happening.

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Only slightly unrelated, but I've been thinking a lot lately about prion disease and whether or not you can still trust the meat you eat. Easily a food safety concern that is ten times worse than getting a little diarrhea from your salad, and the same institutional rot can contribute to it. And it would take 5-10 years to really see the damage done from it.

Most foreigners I know are incredibly skeptical or opposed to the idea of consuming meat while in America, as it has a pretty bad global reputation for not being good quality and/or safe. I’m sure fans of BBQ will argue this, but I’d say the average person who is travelling just for BBQ is not really a standard foreigner. I’ve even had co-workers visit from Ireland and Germany who only trust McDonald’s while they vis…

I'm sorry but you live in a bubble that is beyond imagination. I don't think even 0.5% of tourists to the USA think this.

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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I don't know who are these foreigners you speak of. I'm looking forward to eating some of the best steaks in the US. The beef in Switzerland is mediocre at best.

I've had both and American beef is mediocre compared to Australian or NZ beef (which is usually grass fed). If you want BBQ, go to the US. Else for just a normal steak, just source good ANZ beef and pay for it. Cheaper Indian beef (mostly buffalo - you can get cow meat but that's mostly tougher) can also be mostly grass-fed but it's harder to source.

You can get US grass fed beef at literally any grocery store or butcher shop in the US. So your statement still doesn’t make any sense.

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Instead of making mice seek out cats, this one encourages poor public health policies in people.

If it results in more and fitter offspring it will be selected for.

Sounds like a nice topic for a PhD for someone 100 or 1000 generations down the line...

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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post #16

Only slightly unrelated, but I've been thinking a lot lately about prion disease and whether or not you can still trust the meat you eat. Easily a food safety concern that is ten times worse than getting a little diarrhea from your salad, and the same institutional rot can contribute to it. And it would take 5-10 years to really see the damage done from it.

You basically can't trust anything in capitalism. You have to verify. Almost every market is now a market for lemons.

What system allows you to blindly trust things?

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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I don't know who are these foreigners you speak of. I'm looking forward to eating some of the best steaks in the US. The beef in Switzerland is mediocre at best.

I've had both and American beef is mediocre compared to Australian or NZ beef (which is usually grass fed). If you want BBQ, go to the US. Else for just a normal steak, just source good ANZ beef and pay for it. Cheaper Indian beef (mostly buffalo - you can get cow meat but that's mostly tougher) can also be mostly grass-fed but it's harder to source.

Grass-fed beef isn't necessarily better. It tends to be comparatively leaner than grain-fed, and a richly marbled rib eye is for a lot of people (myself included) just about as good as it gets.

Australian wagyu is, for my money, the best beef in the world (yes, better than Japanese wagyu, which really is too richly marbled), but American Prime is no slouch either.

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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post #16

Only slightly unrelated, but I've been thinking a lot lately about prion disease and whether or not you can still trust the meat you eat. Easily a food safety concern that is ten times worse than getting a little diarrhea from your salad, and the same institutional rot can contribute to it. And it would take 5-10 years to really see the damage done from it.

Been thinking about this one for decades. There is a lot not being discussed too. We have things neatly compartmentalized to avoid cohesive dialog, eg scrapie for sheep, chronic wasting for deer, CJD for humans, and BSE for cattle -- all similar enough to be in the same discussion, but somehow neatly isolated.

We know with certainty that CWD is transmitted/passed through fecal (esp ingestion) in the wild, where animals eat droppings for the stored nutrients, and 20 years ago field biologists discovered prions were transmissible through intestinal routes. At this point it's in the soil, and has been. Though good luck finding all the old, previously available official literature on this.

Remember the New Zealand farm where the sheep kept getting scrapie, so they slaughtered em all, then brought in new flocks, then watched them get re-infected, then finally said fuck it, and left the field alone, then essentially had to admit the land itself was infectious? There are many hard core highly demanding folks here who will scream for "the data" but won't mention that it's difficult to retain all this in memory over decades while the original sources become increasingly more obscure every year. In other words, no, I am not citing anything. If folks want to sneeze and giggle at prions and call me bad-man anti-data boy, go ahead.

Research has been self contradicting on this subject for many years. One day it's solvable with a bit of bleach, and the next even an acetylene torch won't do. It's transmissible through intestinal routes, no it's not, yes it is. Somewhere in between, though, a real problem persists, and my advice is to keep thinking about it, because thinking about it is bad, and looking at what most now call good, it might be a safe-enough inversion to assume bad is good, on this one.

Edit: I would also urge the question of where CWD originated. You will get speculation, but no certain answers. Wherever it came from originally, denying the intestinal route must have helped facilitate the spread.

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