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Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by Slartie » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 11:46 AM UTC

tossandthrow wrote: post #799

muldvarp wrote: post #796

Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.

Even for people living of wealth, it is not clear what the outcomes are. If renters of your apartments can not afford to rent them, housing crashes because your city was a looser (Detroit style withdrawals). Even for stocks we don't know who the winners are. The market as a whole usually does not respond that well on serious turmoil. So yeah. We are likely seeing some very rough years.

Yep, most wealth is ultimately dependent on some kind of ability to scrape off tiny bits of practical accomplishments of value achieved by large numbers of people. In some cases, such as your housing example, this is a very direct dependency. In other cases the dependency is indirect and less visible.

The smarter ones among the rich have realized this and are open for something like a universal basic income precisely for that reason: to protect their wealth and the position in the food chain this wealth affords them.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by bradleyjg » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 11:50 AM UTC

makaking wrote: post #701

"Opus 5 was given a drawing of a machine part and asked to write code to rebuild it as a 3D FreeCAD model. However, in this task, the model was intentionally given no way to directly view the drawing. Opus 5 responded by writing its own computer vision pipeline to pull the geometry from the raw pixels, then reconstructed the full machine part." How surreal is it that we are not absolutely jaw-dropped by these types o…

Let’s say somehow the politics lined up and you were given huge hiring budget for your team. You went out and recruited what seemed like great talent. Weekly standups make it seem like everyone is ramped up and firing on all cylinders.

It’s great, right? But you look at what your team has actually delivered since—-and it’s just not that much more than last year.

I think that’s where a lot of us are at the micro and macro level. It seems really great from the inside and outside but we are still waiting to see the dramatic change in actual concrete software output.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by vitalyan8184 » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 11:53 AM UTC

muldvarp wrote: post #796

Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.

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Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by mlrtime » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 11:56 AM UTC

carra wrote: post #741

makaking wrote: post #701

"Opus 5 was given a drawing of a machine part and asked to write code to rebuild it as a 3D FreeCAD model. However, in this task, the model was intentionally given no way to directly view the drawing. Opus 5 responded by writing its own computer vision pipeline to pull the geometry from the raw pixels, then reconstructed the full machine part." How surreal is it that we are not absolutely jaw-dropped by these types o…

While this is certainly impressive, I believe it is not a good answer from a user's perspective. Instead of having Claude automatically spend tokens in an unrelated task, I would have preferred it to first tell me: "I can't view the drawing. Would you like me to build a computer vision pipeline to do it"?

And if you had free tokens, and 10-20 other sessions in parallel, do you want them all to stop and ask for these trivial questions? Not this one in particular, but in general?

Most people do not, they have a goal, they want it done. If you want to hold hands with claude all the way, you can absolutely do that too. This is just an example of capabilities, not a forced restriction. "--permission mode auto"

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by muldvarp » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 12:01 PM UTC

vitalyan8184 wrote: post #803

muldvarp wrote: post #796

Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.

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I don't consider myself as part of a "laptop class", I don't live in the US and I'm anti-immigration.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by victorbojica » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 12:04 PM UTC

bradleyjg wrote: post #802

makaking wrote: post #701

"Opus 5 was given a drawing of a machine part and asked to write code to rebuild it as a 3D FreeCAD model. However, in this task, the model was intentionally given no way to directly view the drawing. Opus 5 responded by writing its own computer vision pipeline to pull the geometry from the raw pixels, then reconstructed the full machine part." How surreal is it that we are not absolutely jaw-dropped by these types o…

Let’s say somehow the politics lined up and you were given huge hiring budget for your team. You went out and recruited what seemed like great talent. Weekly standups make it seem like everyone is ramped up and firing on all cylinders. It’s great, right? But you look at what your team has actually delivered since—-and it’s just not that much more than last year. I think that’s where a lot of us are at the micro and m…

what for?

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by mistercheph » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 12:15 PM UTC

makaking wrote: post #711

Dilettante_ wrote: post #707

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are always cherry-picked, though. They tell you about the 1/10 that went really impressively, ignoring the other 9 shots at the task where the clanker started to try selling tungsten cubes (in person, wearing a blue shirt).

Fair. But that 1/10 continues to get more and more impressive. Say, Claude 7 creates a new, brilliant scientific idea every 1 out of 1000 times. Anthropic reports "Claude figured out how to tie general relativity with quantum mechanics." Would you hand-wave it away saying that it's cherry-picked?

It wouldn't surprise me that a company with an effectively unlimited budget could fund enough researchers to solve breakthrough problems, all while using LLM's (which are excellent research and exploration tools!) and then claim that the LLM found the breakthrough. The amount of money Anthropic has to play with is >10,000x what entire fields of research have, I think people don't appreciate how few resources we spend to support people working on hard problems that don't have clear commercial applications.

Very similar story with security research, LLM's are a super useful tool while hunting vulnerabilities, but it turns out when the entire software industry starts throwing tens of billions of dollars at vuln. research, a lot of stuff gets unearthed, something security people have been insisting on for years and complaining that their work is underfunded and under-resourced.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by xg15 » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 12:24 PM UTC

makaking wrote: post #701

"Opus 5 was given a drawing of a machine part and asked to write code to rebuild it as a 3D FreeCAD model. However, in this task, the model was intentionally given no way to directly view the drawing. Opus 5 responded by writing its own computer vision pipeline to pull the geometry from the raw pixels, then reconstructed the full machine part." How surreal is it that we are not absolutely jaw-dropped by these types o…

I will be amazed when you can explain to me how it did that, i.e. in which weights exactly the knowledge about the CV pipeline was encoded, if there were any weights that were not contributing anything, how the planning worked, how it could scrape the list of subtasks it was currently working on from its context window, how it understood when to return to a higher-level task and which task, what kind of internal representation it derived from the pixel values, how it translated that representation into CAD code, etc etc.

Until then, it's just "hey, someone out there can do all those things and they're for rent for subsidized prices".

That's more frustrating than impressive.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by Certhas » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 12:25 PM UTC

muldvarp wrote: post #796

Why should I be amazed at something that promises to destroy my life? I genuinely don't understand why people who have to work for their living are amazed at this. It will have a vast negative impact on your life unless you already live off of your wealth.

I can be amazed and terrified at the same time.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by ultrarunner » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 12:26 PM UTC

bradleyjg wrote: post #802

makaking wrote: post #701

"Opus 5 was given a drawing of a machine part and asked to write code to rebuild it as a 3D FreeCAD model. However, in this task, the model was intentionally given no way to directly view the drawing. Opus 5 responded by writing its own computer vision pipeline to pull the geometry from the raw pixels, then reconstructed the full machine part." How surreal is it that we are not absolutely jaw-dropped by these types o…

Let’s say somehow the politics lined up and you were given huge hiring budget for your team. You went out and recruited what seemed like great talent. Weekly standups make it seem like everyone is ramped up and firing on all cylinders. It’s great, right? But you look at what your team has actually delivered since—-and it’s just not that much more than last year. I think that’s where a lot of us are at the micro and m…

There's been a dramatic increase in sloppy kinda-working something.vercel.com output in niche circles. I think that shows at least a weak demand for certain types of software, but it's not clear that the vast piles of cash that have been burned producing these "apps" are actually resulting in quality of life improvements.