Earlier quoted context omitted.
FWIW, you can get a 16x RTX 6000 Pro setup running for significantly less than that. Even considering the electrical hookup fees (it’s a lot of power and cooling). Home ownership might push you into the original quote though.
Kimi K3 is in no way going to fit in 96GB RAM * 16 units (1536GB) unless badly quantized and with a small amount of context.
Kimi K3 exploited the latest Redis server
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#62> this is the first llm that is capable and willing to write an exploit An open-source Kimi is going to have real economic impact (and not only because of its forcing function on frontier labs to indefinitely subsidize their models to meet a race-to-the-bottom market price). Because it's also putting sophisticated zero-day-seeking tools in the hands of script kiddies who can develop and run novel exploits against arb…
If the AI tools can easily find exploits, cannot those same tools be used to harden security? In fact the companies have an advantage over script kiddies: access to more expensive models and compute time as well as professional security engineers
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#64So combine easy public access to uber hacker LLMs with the European CRA coming into full force next year in December. cha ching! 15,000,000 euros fines for all tech companies in Europe :-)
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#65This is a deeply uninteresting example for anyone clueful. It’s an authenticated RCE in redis, anyone even vaguely familiar with the codebase knows to not expect there to be any real security boundary in place here. Don’t confuse this with an unauthenticated RCE, that would actually matter. Absolutely anyone can shit out endless bugs like this with AFL, this is an extremely messy unhardened surface that expects trust…
Yup. Getting pretty tired from seeing these "0days" that are not exploitable in any real use case. Just vibes, no substance.
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#66Never ever write something to code in C or C++. Rust is the only way
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#67As wild as this sounds, redis should not exposed to the internet and this appears to be an authenticated RCE. This is similar to claiming that a PSQL query grants code execution when its actually a feature. These systems are typically not tested as aggressively against vulnerabilities of that nature since 10 times out of 10 you have to have access to these systems already. Issues like these are only really an issue i…
Telegram server or client? The client is open source, so I expect any reasonably capable model to find things there sooner or later. But the sever is closed source. Finding an RCE there would be wild for such a model, since it would have to solve a whole bunch of adjacent problems instead of just digesting tons of code.
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#69> this is the first llm that is capable and willing to write an exploit An open-source Kimi is going to have real economic impact (and not only because of its forcing function on frontier labs to indefinitely subsidize their models to meet a race-to-the-bottom market price). Because it's also putting sophisticated zero-day-seeking tools in the hands of script kiddies who can develop and run novel exploits against arb…
This is a concern but given its size, it's also going to cost a potential user $500-600k in hardware to self host and run Kimi K3 at any useful speed with full context size. It's not something that just anyone interested in attacking a system can use. The size/cost of hardware is far beyond even something like a self-hosted GLM5.2 Q8 at approx. 850GB GGUF file on disk size, which can run at a slow tok/s rate on a ser…
Or on runpod with rented gpus or inference.
Re: Kimi K3 exploited the latest Redis server
#70> this is the first llm that is capable and willing to write an exploit An open-source Kimi is going to have real economic impact (and not only because of its forcing function on frontier labs to indefinitely subsidize their models to meet a race-to-the-bottom market price). Because it's also putting sophisticated zero-day-seeking tools in the hands of script kiddies who can develop and run novel exploits against arb…