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Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Post by zahlman »

malfist wrote: post #12
oneplane wrote: post #5

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It's been extensively reported on, and any AWS user that clicks on the health dashboard would also have seen it, even if they don't consume from news outlets. As for use it gets: plenty of use, mostly when someone needs to have their worlds close to that area (usually latency or legal reasons). There are a lot of smaller businesses that lost a lot (or maybe even everything) because their never thought they would need…

Are you implying that something that gets reported on, shouldn't be on HN? Also, clearly it wasn't that extensive if GP hadn't heard about it

> Are you implying that something that gets reported on, shouldn't be on HN?

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Post by pbiggar »

strictnein wrote: post #274
adrr wrote: post #262

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Israel's leader is wanted by the international court for genocide. And lets not forget how Iran's current government took power? US installed a dictator in Iran because UK was angry that Iran nationalized the UK owned oil fields. This led to a coup, which resulted in the current Iranian government. There's no good guys. Why is the US even there? Edit: downvoted to -3. Did i say anything that was untrue? Or do people…

> This led to a coup, which resulted in the current Iranian government. I mean, you're passing over the violent revolution from socialists and Islamists.

America had a violent revolution. So did practically every other country. Are violent revolutions de facto bad?

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Post by Jensson »

ifwinterco wrote: post #396
emosenkis wrote: post #148

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Please explain how attacking a civilian data center in an uninvolved country is a "response".

Let’s say you live in the northern US and Canada signs a deal with China to put air bases with Chinese missiles just north of the US border. Would that be fine? Or would that cause a lot of tension with Canada and make them involved in a US-China conflict?

USA would look very bad if they started bombarding Canada over that, yes. Not even Russia does that. They protest but they haven't started bombarding neutral countries over such things yet. You don't see Ukraine bombarding Belarus either, even though Belarus is full of Russian bases.

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Post by ferbivore »

ifwinterco wrote: post #396
emosenkis wrote: post #148

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Please explain how attacking a civilian data center in an uninvolved country is a "response".

Let’s say you live in the northern US and Canada signs a deal with China to put air bases with Chinese missiles just north of the US border. Would that be fine? Or would that cause a lot of tension with Canada and make them involved in a US-China conflict?

If only we lived in the reality where this was possible. Americans living in the same fear they inflict on the rest of the world might mellow them out a little.

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Post by ben_w »

giardini wrote: post #402
laughing_man wrote: post #384

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lol no. Iran hasn't yet been able to enrich uranium to the necessary purity to make a bomb. Yes, making a bomb is easy once you have the materials. Getting the materials is very difficult. If by "dirty bombs" you mean a conventional bomb with radioisotopes mixed in... well, the use of that kind of weapon would probably get Iran invaded, but since it's not a very practical weapon it wouldn't affect the strategic situa…

laughing_man says "Yes, making a bomb is easy once you have the materials. Getting the materials is very difficult." Well, apparently they've had (lots of) the raw material for years. And they have training: all those Iranian science majors at universities during/after the Shah was deposed are candidates. They've had 40 years to study, play and worship. As a friend says, Pakistan got the bomb and if they can do it, a…

> Well, apparently they've had (lots of) the raw material for years.

"raw material" != "material".

While I assume they could've purified enough of the former into the latter by this point if they wanted to, it is a much much harder thing to do than to say.

> Marie Curie purified plutonium all by herself before the turn of the century (albeit in minuscule amounts at high personal cost), so I have little confidence in your assessment.

No, what she discovered was *polonium*, not *plutonium*.

She named polonium that in support of the nationhood of Poland (which was at the time was partitioned between three countries), despite discovering it she never actually isolated it because polonium has a half life of 138 days which makes it a really really small fraction of the total material.

Polonium was first isolated in 1902 by Willy Marckwald who managed a whole 3 milligrams and even then it took another three years for people to realise what he'd isolated was the same thing Marie Curie had found. It took 15 tons of pitchblende to get those 3mg.

*Plutonium* on the other hand was first discovered in 1934. Plutonium (and uranium) is the stuff that makes fission bombs. It takes tens of kilograms of uranium or plutonium per bomb.

Purification of chemical elements (both polonium and plutonium) is much, much easier than separating the isotopes of uranium; and you need to purify ("enrich") uranium to a specific isotope to manufacture more than trivial quantities of plutonium. (And, indeed, polonium).

> Unfortunately I believe this is just wrongheaded. When I was a kid I read Flash Gordon cartoons. There was an episode with "cobalt bombs" to wipe out a civilization permanently. One of the few times that I was freaked out as a kid. Nuclear war didn't scare me at all, but cobalt bombs and extermination - sheeeeeeit!8-(

You're taking a comic book plot device as evidence?

Also, cobalt bombs != dirty bombs:

A cobalt bomb is a bomb powered by a nuclear explosion, that has enhanced fallout.

A dirty bomb is a normal, non-nuclear, explosive, that has some radioisotopes attached to it.

The former easily wipes out a city; the latter messes up a building.

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Post by wiether »

hirako2000 wrote: post #398
self wrote: post #16

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There was a building hit near the data center on the first day of the war and that took down one AZ (unfortunately, two of my three EC2 instances were in that AZ). The hit on April 1 pretty much took it all down. Fortunately I had relatively up-to-date backups (both within 24 hours before each outage) so all I lost was a little email (spam) and some libera chat logs. I've moved to ap-southeast-1, which means trading…

I'm sure there are businesses in the UAE, but wondering, why would one keep instances/data on a zone at risk since well over a year now. Genuinely curious. Aside for high frequency trading where latency is so vital.

The next closest region is Tel-Aviv, I guess it's pretty obvious they won't put their workload here.

And after that it's Mumbai, 2500km away. That will easily double your latency, which is someone that you can feel in usage.

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Post by holoduke »

throwaway836123 wrote: post #93

As someone who has lived most of his life in Iran, I ask those who find any alignment with the IRGC to please understand that it is a religiously fanatic military and terrorist group. They are behind many atrocities in Iran and in the region including the situation in Gaza (partially). They also provided weaponry and support to Russia against Ukraine.

Yes true, but also anyone in Iran no matter what part your from wants the US gone in the region. The US is seen as responsible for allowing slavery in many golf states. It's also responsible for unfair businesses. And seen as a mafia state that steals resources.

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Post by TiredOfLife »

runtime_terror wrote: post #177
TiredOfLife wrote: post #142

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What are alternatives. You can't change from inside and you can't change from the outside.

Why do we think it's our job to intervene in other countries like this? And if we wanted to help another country, working with the international community should be the only approach we take. We've spent many decades overthrowing countries to what end? Even our vassals like Israel have universal healthcare while we're all in debt because of healthcare. It's not working and needs to stop.

> Why do we think it's our job to intervene in other countries like this?

If Iran wasn't supporting terror organizations around the world and didn't help russia I would agree. Their country, they can kill as much of their own people as they please.

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Post by TiredOfLife »

joshmarinacci wrote: post #146
TiredOfLife wrote: post #142

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What are alternatives. You can't change from inside and you can't change from the outside.

The alternative is what the last five American presidents have done: containment. There's a reason Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton and Bush didn't start the war that Trump did. This is why.

Containment led to russia launching hundreds of iranian designed drones at Ukraine evey day.
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