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Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by Dr_Incelheimer »

jm4 wrote: post #21
ashleyn wrote: post #16

Only slightly unrelated, but I've been thinking a lot lately about prion disease and whether or not you can still trust the meat you eat. Easily a food safety concern that is ten times worse than getting a little diarrhea from your salad, and the same institutional rot can contribute to it. And it would take 5-10 years to really see the damage done from it.

A guy gets a worm in his brain, somehow becomes secretary of health, loosens all the rules so the rest of us have a higher chance of getting a brain worm. This is comic book villain kind of stuff. Can we start a serious discussion about whether we might be living in a simulation with a troll teenager at the controls?

Read https://www.docdroid.net/MfW3sAr/parasite-pill-version-20-pd... and be enlightened. I believe it was originally made by a 4chan user so obviously there are a lot of insane ramblings there but if the theory is true, the implications would be hilarious

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by [deleted] »

w0de0 wrote: post #49
Waterluvian wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Americans have what’s basically a cultural trait at this point of deflecting ownership of their government’s actions with “not my president so not my failure” abdication of responsibility. I wish we could open trade talks with these people instead. But, alas, that’s not how it works.

Fine, it’s all my fault. Neither me nor my state voted that way, I’ve protested like hell, but nonetheless at your insistence I accept personal responsibility for the policy choices of the federal government. What do you propose I do? Or did you just want my permission to be personally angry at me? Not sure you needed it, but you’ve now got it.

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Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by close04 »

w0de0 wrote: post #49
Waterluvian wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Americans have what’s basically a cultural trait at this point of deflecting ownership of their government’s actions with “not my president so not my failure” abdication of responsibility. I wish we could open trade talks with these people instead. But, alas, that’s not how it works.

Fine, it’s all my fault. Neither me nor my state voted that way, I’ve protested like hell, but nonetheless at your insistence I accept personal responsibility for the policy choices of the federal government. What do you propose I do? Or did you just want my permission to be personally angry at me? Not sure you needed it, but you’ve now got it.

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Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by senderista »

jiqiren wrote: post #13
pm90 wrote: post #12

The US Federal Government has been meaningfully degraded by the brazen corruption of the people in power. Already there was a crisis of faith in authority; this is just going to make it much much worse. I wonder if its time to rethink some of these institutions. It seems like Food Safety is especially important to the welp being of society; it might make sense to have food testing labs in every major population cente…

Seems because of Supreme Court ruling practically every federal agency likely needs to be re-chartered to have the same structure as the Federal Reserve.

They need to be restructured such that their success or failure has a direct impact on the justices' retirement accounts.

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by pstuart »

Arodex wrote: post #39
epistasis wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a long time foe of RFK Jr., spend way too much time here, and have never been under the impression that RFK Jr. was a darling here at all.

Filter for dates around his presidential run: "he's not really anti Vax", "he's the only candidate talking about health"... With Dorsey and other SV actors boosting him. https://archive.is/kce6f

Wait, so techbros angling for influence represent the HN population?

Sadly, there's enough MAGA here to share their downvotes but your "evidence" is pointing in a different direction.

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by senderista »

mindslight wrote: post #20
jiqiren wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems because of Supreme Court ruling practically every federal agency likely needs to be re-chartered to have the same structure as the Federal Reserve.

Depending how far the Supreme Council takes the unitary executive theory, we might need a straight up Constitutional amendment. And while we're at it, those department heads should be directly elected by the People - imagine being able to split your choices for which parties control the FCC vs the ATF. (Ideally we'd move towards Ranked Pairs voting too, diminishing the two-party stranglehold as well)

Technocrats shouldn't be popularly elected. Someone like RFK Jr. would be more likely to end up in a top position under popular election, not less likely. The American public does not generally respect expertise, but politicians mostly did until quite recently (with a few exceptions like climate change).

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by pstuart »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #31
Arodex wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we start a serious discussion about whether you might start taking responsibility of who you elect instead of wasting your time fantasizing? I mean, it is not as if RFK was the darling candidate of HN at one time?

You might benefit from looking up the Goomba Fallacy. As a former anti-anti-RFK guy, I absolutely have to take responsibility, I severely misunderstood the wellness movement and didn't realize that inflicting disease on people was their goal. But I don't know why you think the person you're responding to supported RFK.

He's definitely got the broken clock syndrome. And back in the day he was a strong defender of the environment.

I've got a family member and ex friend (both trained in science) and they drank the koolaid hard. A funny story about them -- both had stayed at my home (different times) and I had taken to heating the water for my coffee in the microwave.

Both of them were horrified by that and refused to use that water. Neither could give reason why, and artfully deflected when I pressed the matter. I think antivaxers caught a virus that melted their brains.

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by vkou »

lovich wrote: post #46
lettergram wrote: post #2

It was a false positive for what it was worth - https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-says-taylor-f...

> FDA says... This admin has lied repeatedly. Why would any of us believe a statement solely because the admin said it? Do we need to give them the benefit of the doubt despite how many times they lie?

The press seems to think that someone who lies whenever their lips are moving deserves an elevated platform.

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by jacobolus »

pstuart wrote: post #57
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might benefit from looking up the Goomba Fallacy. As a former anti-anti-RFK guy, I absolutely have to take responsibility, I severely misunderstood the wellness movement and didn't realize that inflicting disease on people was their goal. But I don't know why you think the person you're responding to supported RFK.

He's definitely got the broken clock syndrome. And back in the day he was a strong defender of the environment. I've got a family member and ex friend (both trained in science) and they drank the koolaid hard. A funny story about them -- both had stayed at my home (different times) and I had taken to heating the water for my coffee in the microwave. Both of them were horrified by that and refused to use that water. N…

I think the worldwide disruption of the pandemic melted people's brains, and the recent surge in the anti-vax movement is a symptom. Along the lines of: if all this bad stuff happened and my life was significantly harmed, it must be someone's fault; all those doctors and scientists kept advising everyone on what they thought was happening and what to do, so they're probably the ones who caused the problem.

Re: Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall

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Post by testfrequency »

ashleyn wrote: post #16

Only slightly unrelated, but I've been thinking a lot lately about prion disease and whether or not you can still trust the meat you eat. Easily a food safety concern that is ten times worse than getting a little diarrhea from your salad, and the same institutional rot can contribute to it. And it would take 5-10 years to really see the damage done from it.

Most foreigners I know are incredibly skeptical or opposed to the idea of consuming meat while in America, as it has a pretty bad global reputation for not being good quality and/or safe.

I’m sure fans of BBQ will argue this, but I’d say the average person who is travelling just for BBQ is not really a standard foreigner.

I’ve even had co-workers visit from Ireland and Germany who only trust McDonald’s while they visit, or a local pub.

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