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Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

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Post by bruce511 »

behindsight wrote: post #5

The blog's visual design is quite pleasant to read. However I am a bit confused by the author's remarks > I do NOT EVER consent to ANYTHING being done in regard to AI in my name. > With newer sites like Bio Link and FediProfile I don't see the usefulness of Gravatar. If anything, I think it now has ANTI-features. It's conflicting to mention Bio Link with the author's ideology since it quite prominently has: - AI assi…

We live in a world with cognitive dissonance. We have to because if you don't you'd go insane.

This article is perhaps a good example of that. On the one hand live in public (post blogs, use the same avatar on multiple sites) but at the same time try and control how that publicness is consumed (humans only, no AI).

Right now, whatever you make public is in AI. Whether that is on HN, or your blog, or wherever. You may not like that, but public is ultimately public.

Ironically a blog post about leaving some service because they used the marketing phrase "AI", is immediately added to the AI training corpus.

AI is just the latest tech in a long history of ranting against change. I'm old enough to remember "old people" ranting against computers (paper and pencil is real!), then phones, then internet, then smart phones.

People like to rent. People don't like change. We want privacy but post all the time. We don't want to be tracked, but carry a tracker. We live in a dissonance world.

Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

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Post by Gualdrapo »

bruce511 wrote: post #11
behindsight wrote: post #5

The blog's visual design is quite pleasant to read. However I am a bit confused by the author's remarks > I do NOT EVER consent to ANYTHING being done in regard to AI in my name. > With newer sites like Bio Link and FediProfile I don't see the usefulness of Gravatar. If anything, I think it now has ANTI-features. It's conflicting to mention Bio Link with the author's ideology since it quite prominently has: - AI assi…

We live in a world with cognitive dissonance. We have to because if you don't you'd go insane. This article is perhaps a good example of that. On the one hand live in public (post blogs, use the same avatar on multiple sites) but at the same time try and control how that publicness is consumed (humans only, no AI). Right now, whatever you make public is in AI. Whether that is on HN, or your blog, or wherever. You may…

> We live in a world with cognitive dissonance. We have to because if you don't you'd go insane.

Now I feel it's more that we are just way irrational and stupid than we'd like to admit. Accepting our cognitive dissonances would hurt so bad our anthropocentric ego.

Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

#13

Post by Gualdrapo »

donatj wrote: post #8
efilife wrote: post #2

Beautiful typography on this site, a joy to read. Overall, it's just nicely designed

Multiple people have made this comment... And I am perplexed ... Am I missing something? I'm on my phone in bed so I can't inspect the page, but by all appearances it 16pt Arial... Is the web in such a poor state that this is a revelation?

Am on phone too but also am pretty sure it's not Arial. It seems like Work Sans to me?

Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

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Post by gnabgib »

Gualdrapo wrote: post #13
donatj wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multiple people have made this comment... And I am perplexed ... Am I missing something? I'm on my phone in bed so I can't inspect the page, but by all appearances it 16pt Arial... Is the web in such a poor state that this is a revelation?

Am on phone too but also am pretty sure it's not Arial. It seems like Work Sans to me?

Nothing beautiful about it, at all, weird. But the font is listed in the source:

> @import url('https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Work+Sans:ital,wght...');

Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

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Post by echelon »

s09dfhks wrote: post #6
mvdtnz wrote: post #4

I feel like I'm missing a lot of context and I'm not willing to click on a (another) random link to get it.

I thought i was alone. I have no idea what this blog post is complaining about

I don't get it either. I clicked their link to the other person's complaint, too - I still do not understand.

Almost every product I build pre-populates user avatars from Gravatar as the optional first personalization hook. It's a nice feature.

Also fuck this bit:

> I know a lot of people also think that Matt Mullenweg's recent statements about WordPress, open source, and other companies have been problematic.

Matt's company did 99% of the work on WordPress and newcomer WP Engine came in and took everything without contributing any code back. They also gobbled up 50% of the market share. The license means WP Engine can do that, but it doesn't make what WP Engine did ethical. Fuck WP Engine and people that do shit like that. Makes me hate OSI purism. It's not unlike what AWS and GCP do to starve Redis, Elastic, etc. of their revenue streams, meanwhile their entire platforms are closed source.

Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

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Post by efilife »

gnabgib wrote: post #14
Gualdrapo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am on phone too but also am pretty sure it's not Arial. It seems like Work Sans to me?

Nothing beautiful about it, at all, weird. But the font is listed in the source: > @import url(' https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Work+Sans:ital,wght... ');

I find the font beautiful

Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

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Post by efilife »

phito wrote: post #10
donatj wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multiple people have made this comment... And I am perplexed ... Am I missing something? I'm on my phone in bed so I can't inspect the page, but by all appearances it 16pt Arial... Is the web in such a poor state that this is a revelation?

Myeah, the first thing I saw when opening it on mobile is that the top logo is not centered and the menu is not displaying properly ("About" item single on a line with some random left margin). Not that I care but then I was confused by the two comments here praising the design.

The logo is the one thing I didn't like but I don't want to clarify every single thing to prevent people from nitpicking and dissecting my words.

I like the spacing between paragraphs, the line-height, and the font choice. The colors chosen are pleasing as well. And the design feels simple. I even like the centered text in the footer.

Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

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Post by cwnyth »

donatj wrote: post #8
efilife wrote: post #2

Beautiful typography on this site, a joy to read. Overall, it's just nicely designed

Multiple people have made this comment... And I am perplexed ... Am I missing something? I'm on my phone in bed so I can't inspect the page, but by all appearances it 16pt Arial... Is the web in such a poor state that this is a revelation?

I'm on a laptop and I don't get it either. I'd go so far to say it's quite plain and inoffensive and the dreary color of the background is ugly.

People have different tastes, and that's cool, but this page has the style of microwaved oatmeal.

Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

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Post by etiennebausson »

bruce511 wrote: post #11
behindsight wrote: post #5

The blog's visual design is quite pleasant to read. However I am a bit confused by the author's remarks > I do NOT EVER consent to ANYTHING being done in regard to AI in my name. > With newer sites like Bio Link and FediProfile I don't see the usefulness of Gravatar. If anything, I think it now has ANTI-features. It's conflicting to mention Bio Link with the author's ideology since it quite prominently has: - AI assi…

We live in a world with cognitive dissonance. We have to because if you don't you'd go insane. This article is perhaps a good example of that. On the one hand live in public (post blogs, use the same avatar on multiple sites) but at the same time try and control how that publicness is consumed (humans only, no AI). Right now, whatever you make public is in AI. Whether that is on HN, or your blog, or wherever. You may…

Is there a dissonance?

There is a difference with accepting a "feature" in a product you sign-on to, and having it added behind your back.

On one side, gravatar never talked about feeding your profile to AI when he signed up, and never amended TOS or announced change in that direction (that he received at least).

On the other, the new service he use are upfront about it; though I don't use either service, so no idea on the whole package.

I personally find value in that.

Re: Re: Bye Bye Gravatar

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Post by uanttributed »

behindsight wrote: post #5

The blog's visual design is quite pleasant to read. However I am a bit confused by the author's remarks > I do NOT EVER consent to ANYTHING being done in regard to AI in my name. > With newer sites like Bio Link and FediProfile I don't see the usefulness of Gravatar. If anything, I think it now has ANTI-features. It's conflicting to mention Bio Link with the author's ideology since it quite prominently has: - AI assi…

Hello, author here.

When I originally signed up for Bio Link they did not have any AI-anti features. I did not double-check the site before writing that sentence. I will update the article based on this information.

Thank you.

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