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Country went 100% electric vehicles overnight with a drastic approach

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Re: Country went 100% electric vehicles overnight with a drastic approach

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How can you tell?

> But there’s a catch. Actually, several.

> Laos isn’t doing this for climate headlines. The logic is economic.

> The headline writes itself. A country went nearly 100% EV overnight. But the mechanism matters..

I mean, come on... if it quacks like a duck and it em-dashes like a duck...

Re: Country went 100% electric vehicles overnight with a drastic approach

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I can't believe that there's a market for re-publishing press releases, whether it's done by humans or LLMs.

Elektrek links to Eco-Business, a similar blog republishing press releases. They cite, but do not link to, the press release on the Lao Ministry of Industry and Commerce web site.

That is actually news, or close to it. The rest of the process might as well be done by an LLM, with or without a human edit, and then discarded.

Re: Country went 100% electric vehicles overnight with a drastic approach

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Interesting, but it seems like this really only affects consumers, since commercial vehicles will still use diesel. And the fact that they're almost certainly going to get all their EVs from China... hmm, I wonder who or what really convinced the government in Laos to go for this?

Well, the article mentions: > The country runs almost entirely on hydropower and has built its export strategy around selling electricity to its neighbors. But it imports every drop of the fuel its cars burn, and that fuel bill is paid in foreign currency Laos is chronically short on. Every gas car swapped for an electric one runs on domestic hydro instead of imported diesel. That’s the whole game. My issue with this…

We have an EV and I figure we will save about $5k or more per 100,000 miles on the fuel costs, but that savings is flipped to a loss if I had to use fast charging all the time. But I'm using $3.50/gallon gas in that math. In Laos gas is almost double that, and electricity is much less than in my math. I get $0.07/kWh at night, but average residential in Laos is $0.031-$0.004 per kWh, so there's a roughly 4x relative advantage based on those price structures. Google says public charging in Laos is between $0.11 and $0.16 per kWh, which means someone using public chargers there would likely still be saving money over a similar gas vehicle.

[I asked google for those prices, so my estimates above are only as good as what Gemini gave me]

Re: Country went 100% electric vehicles overnight with a drastic approach

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the article mentions: > The country runs almost entirely on hydropower and has built its export strategy around selling electricity to its neighbors. But it imports every drop of the fuel its cars burn, and that fuel bill is paid in foreign currency Laos is chronically short on. Every gas car swapped for an electric one runs on domestic hydro instead of imported diesel. That’s the whole game. My issue with this…

We have an EV and I figure we will save about $5k or more per 100,000 miles on the fuel costs, but that savings is flipped to a loss if I had to use fast charging all the time. But I'm using $3.50/gallon gas in that math. In Laos gas is almost double that, and electricity is much less than in my math. I get $0.07/kWh at night, but average residential in Laos is $0.031-$0.004 per kWh, so there's a roughly 4x relative…

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Re: Country went 100% electric vehicles overnight with a drastic approach

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I recently spent a week on an island with almost no ICE vehicles. I saw one small ICE tricycle utility vehicle — all the other vehicles were pushbikes, electric scooters, and horses with carts. No road noise apart from the horses hooves and the occasional bicycle bell. Very pleasant.

Re: Country went 100% electric vehicles overnight with a drastic approach

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you tell?

> But there’s a catch. Actually, several. > Laos isn’t doing this for climate headlines. The logic is economic. > The headline writes itself. A country went nearly 100% EV overnight. But the mechanism matters.. I mean, come on... if it quacks like a duck and it em-dashes like a duck...

Thanks, you are right. I missed that somehow.

It's weird that people don't routinely pass the prose they produce through anti-slop check. If it's easy to detect for us it should be even easier to detect and remove with AI.

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