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Claude Opus 5

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Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by braebo »

r1ch wrote: post #538

Alongside this release I seem to have lost all thinking traces from all models - now it only generates a one-line summary similar to Gemini. I'm guessing this is an anti distillation measure? I'm surprised to see no one else complaining about this, it's a significant reduction in usefulness not being able to explore alternative angles that the model discarded in the final output.

This kills me everyday. I used to _only_ read thinking traces — the response is just what it thinks I want to hear, but I need to know what it's actually thinking to catch deeper misunderstandings earlier, or gain deeper insights into the problem it's exploring. Hiding thinking traces to curb distillation efforts is gross... both anti-consumer and anti-competitive at the same time. I can't wait to switch to open models at work for this reason alone.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by anuramat »

hangrybear666 wrote: post #584
dgellow wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s what I understand looking at what has been released, but it’s not really clear. The pricing is lower than I expected, I’m wondering what their margin is

By margin you mean how much money they're losing on each request to stay ahead of the curve while investments are still flowing?

you think they're doing inference at a loss even with the API prices?

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by razster »

jjcm wrote: post #382
jjcm wrote: post #332

Doing testing with it now, specifically for image->html conversion. Previously Fable was the best at this, followed by Gemini 3.1 pro (a surprising #2, but Google has great vision models). Opus' results seem to be more accurate than Fable, following the design source of truth better. Example results: Design source of truth: https://image.non.io/73e239a3-880f-4793-b65f-4810be2d9378.we... Opus 5 build: https://html.non…

Here's another test of a cyberpunk ramen shop website. One thing I've found LLMs have a lot of difficulty with is angular cuts / elements that aren't easily representable with CSS. Cyberpunk aesthetics are generally a great test of that, since they have a lot of microglyphs / window decoration. Design source of truth: https://image.non.io/9d5fed20-b476-49d3-841b-37eb553fb88e.we... Opus 5 build: https://html.non.io/ne…

I really like that design. May I ask the name of the website builder/diagram? Is it Relume?

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by redbell »

My excitement about Anthropic had fabled-out dramatically when they suspended my pro account about two weeks ago within just 12 hours of fair use.

I was really mind-blown when I tried Fable 5 for the first time to help me improve a game I was working on but shortly, they decided that I had a suspicious activity and suspended my account without a clear reason.

I submitted a an appeal describing that I am 100% sure I haven't broken any rules and that it was my very first project but, unfortunately, after about 20 days now, nothing seem to be happening.

The thing that hurts me the most is that I had the same experience in the very first days of Anthropic. They suspended my account immediately after I submitted the first prompt, I commented back then (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39698788) and fortunately, someone from Anthropic reach out to me via X and helped me get my account back.

To be honest, I haven't used Claude much since then but when I decided it's time to give it a try, they locked me out again! For reference, the account I used recently is relatively a new one but the activity is crystal clear that it is fair use.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by robwwilliams »

DonsDiscountGas wrote: post #512
deet wrote: post #446

I compared the writing style of Opus 5 vs Fable 5, and Opus 5 continues many of the "Claude-isms" of its 4.8 predecessor in a way that Fable broke away from. Opus 5 still uses "carry the argument", "worth stating plainly", ", and the trap", "The X matters more", the use of "move" We need an "annoying English" benchmark. - Fable 5 Max: https://gist.github.com/deet/3d97f854b48eac6658d642fa18bb24d... - Opus 5 Max: https…

I think a signature Claude style of writing is good since it makes it that much harder to pass off Claude written text as human.

Easy enough to change. I have a Stylometry Skill fit to my preferred style—a mix of me and Terry Winograd. Give Opus 10 of your best paper thst you wrote and tell it to build a model of your style. hHard to distinguish except I make way more typos.

Re: Claude Opus 5

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Post by razster »

echelon wrote: post #385
jjcm wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's another test of a cyberpunk ramen shop website. One thing I've found LLMs have a lot of difficulty with is angular cuts / elements that aren't easily representable with CSS. Cyberpunk aesthetics are generally a great test of that, since they have a lot of microglyphs / window decoration. Design source of truth: https://image.non.io/9d5fed20-b476-49d3-841b-37eb553fb88e.we... Opus 5 build: https://html.non.io/ne…

God damn, we are living in the future. I love this so much. Designs like this would never have seen the light of day in the cellphone incrementalism / corporate memphis era of tech. Now people can be weird and awesome again. This is 1980's cyberpunk / late-90's Matrix / early-00's sci-fi UI. Great ideas that died to frutiger aero (which isn't a bad design aesthetic) and flat design (which is). This is fun and it's go…

I feel you. I dig this and enjoyed those types of aesthetics. Back in the day this was my bread and butter, designing UI design for games and apps. I just realized AI (Specifically Pi+Ornith) can help with my ideas... So excited.

I'm hella interested in finding out what website builder/diagram app was used. I dig the dark theme/grid.

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