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IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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Officially, neither is the US, since Trump doesn't have that power.

If you take that approach, Ukraine is still a special operation.

Of course, which is why I called the whole lot wars until someone started HN nitpicking one of them

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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You forgot to mention a small detail, the US did that only after they started a war. The US is known for its perfidy at this point, so any deals they propose aren't exactly trustworthy, and the US couldn't even contain israel after the latest MoU which made it void.

Not true. The US has been negotiating with Iran for over a year about a nuclear deal before the war started. This has all been public.

If only the prior P5+1 / Iran JCPOA deal of 2015 that constrained HEU and was backed up by multi country inspectors and tamper resistant / revealing on site instrumentation hadn't been thrown out the window by some fool.

Why on earth would anyone trust a country that reneged on a hard fought deal and followed that up by bombing during negotiations to restore what was lost.

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Why do we think it's our job to intervene in other countries like this? And if we wanted to help another country, working with the international community should be the only approach we take. We've spent many decades overthrowing countries to what end? Even our vassals like Israel have universal healthcare while we're all in debt because of healthcare. It's not working and needs to stop.

In this case, the US was pretty involved in destabilizing the country. If the us and the uk hadn't intervened in 50s, Iran would have made a successful transition from monarchy to democracy. I guess we can discuss if the US owes anything to anyone, but a case for the us correcting earlier mistakes can definitely be made.

I can't assume that Iran would've successfully transitioned to democracy, or that it's even what should happen there. All those Arabian Gulf countries are monarchies.

Re: IRGC claims it destroyed Amazon's Bahrain data center

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I don't care about Iran's leadership and think this shouldn't be the US's war to fight. Also, we aren't even trying to replace their government, we're just attacking per Israel's wishes. There must be a lot of Americans who agree.

Israel's leader is wanted by the international court for genocide. And lets not forget how Iran's current government took power? US installed a dictator in Iran because UK was angry that Iran nationalized the UK owned oil fields. This led to a coup, which resulted in the current Iranian government. There's no good guys. Why is the US even there? Edit: downvoted to -3. Did i say anything that was untrue? Or do people…

> US installed a dictator in Iran because UK was angry that Iran nationalized the UK owned oil fields.

> Did i say anything that was untrue? Or do people not like the truth?

It is widely assumed, but not factually correct, that the US was responsible.

On August 15th 1953 the CIA staged a coup to overthrow the government, but it failed. By the next day the State Department was actively trying to enter into diplomatic talks.

Three days later a group of clerics headed by Ayatollah Borujerdi took advantage of the situation and stirred up unrest that was ultimately responsible for the Shah taking power. They had been concerned about Mossadeq embracing secular liberalism and a referendum that dissolved the Majlis (parliament/congress). MI-6 had offered them support, but they rejected it.

I would highly recommend this book if you can get a copy: https://www.amazon.com/Iran-CIA-Fall-Mosaddeq-Revisited/dp/0...

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Israel is much farther away and has an advanced missile defense system. Israel also has a lot more options for retaliations against Iran then nukes.

The air defense system is so advanced, that it shot down nearly all video recordings of recent strikes!

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Iran has launched thousands of missiles at Israel over the last few months. The idea they're worried about Israeli nuclear weapons is fanciful.

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Why do you say they're "clearly going to be worried about getting nuked"? I see no indication that's true.
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